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Re: $22 SnG - short stacked w/ pocket 4s???
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You guys are killin me here. How can you sit around and wait for some great oppurtunity with just over 4x the BB left. Yes it isnt a dream scenario, but you aren't likely to have one at this point. Anything but moving allin is simply terrible IMO. If the blinds are 50-100 then feel free to fold all you want. [/ QUOTE ] I think HERO had very little FE here, at least at 20+2. Even we only have 4.8BB, do you think it is a good idea to willingly take at best a coin flip here? especially HERO is button, and can wait for a few more hands, either for a better hand or open push opportunity. I do realize that sometimes I wait for too long. its my leak. |
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Re: $22 SnG - short stacked w/ pocket 4s???
If we knew for sure that it was a coinflip with the UTG player, this is a very good situation for us. Very good....passing it up would be suicidal.
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If we knew for sure that it was a coinflip with the UTG player, this is a very good situation for us. Very good....passing it up would be suicidal. [/ QUOTE ] are you saying that even if you know that UTG has AK, you still push? thats kind beyond my level of play...... |
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Re: $22 SnG - short stacked w/ pocket 4s???
definitely! First off there is dead money in the blinds (225 chips!!), second of all you will win the hadn almost 55% of the time. You arent going to see a better oppurtunity than this with only 4.7x the BB. Coinflips are usually bad when you have a comfortable chip stack, when you are desperate and its not the bubble they are usually pretty good, as its unlikely you will have a better oppurtunity. Its especially good to be on the "right" side of the coinflip.
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Re: $22 SnG - short stacked w/ pocket 4s???
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definitely! First off there is dead money in the blinds (225 chips!!), second of all you will win the hadn almost 55% of the time. You arent going to see a better oppurtunity than this with only 4.7x the BB. Coinflips are usually bad when you have a comfortable chip stack, when you are desperate and its not the bubble they are usually pretty good, as its unlikely you will have a better oppurtunity. Its especially good to be on the "right" side of the coinflip. [/ QUOTE ] thank you for your reply. I guess I learned something. it is definitely my leak. |
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Coinflips are usually bad when you have a comfortable chip stack, [/ QUOTE ] what do you consider a comfortable chip stack? earlier you said people could "feel free to fold all you want" w/BB at 100, which would be 7xBB. Does that mean that 7xBB is comfortable or something higher, like 10xbb? |
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Re: $22 SnG - short stacked w/ pocket 4s???
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If we knew for sure that it was a coinflip with the UTG player, this is a very good situation for us. Very good....passing it up would be suicidal. [/ QUOTE ] We don't know for sure that it's a coinflip though. He could easily hold an overpair, and there's like no chance he has 33/22. So we're either a coinflip or badly behind..I guess I just don't see it as an instant push. If we had some FE to counteract the times we run into an overpair, sure, but do we have any FE here? |
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Re: $22 SnG - short stacked w/ pocket 4s???
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[ QUOTE ] If we knew for sure that it was a coinflip with the UTG player, this is a very good situation for us. Very good....passing it up would be suicidal. [/ QUOTE ] We don't know for sure that it's a coinflip though. He could easily hold an overpair, and there's like no chance he has 33/22. So we're either a coinflip or badly behind..I guess I just don't see it as an instant push. If we had some FE to counteract the times we run into an overpair, sure, but do we have any FE here? [/ QUOTE ] Its either a coinflip, we are behind (although a coinflip is much much more likely if we get called by UTG) OR OUR OPPONENT MIGHT FOLD. We definitely have folding equity, it costs the guy another 500+ chips to call. If you want to tell me you've never seen a partypoker player fold in this situation, you are flat out lying to me. |
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Re: $22 SnG - short stacked w/ pocket 4s???
Push and prey for a coin flip.
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