fold KK ?

[Wevie]

***** Hand History for Game 2544458075 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14886948 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Tuesday, August 16, 09:01:32 EDT 2005
Table Table 39797 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: HERO ( $1285 )
Seat 3: brazosrower ( $505 )
Seat 5: Gistan ( $2000 )
Seat 6: turbospede ( $1945 )
Seat 7: mfcroy ( $500 )
Seat 10: paultja ( $1765 )
Trny:14886948 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kd Kc ]
brazosrower is all-In [505]
Gistan folds.
turbospede is all-In [1945]
mfcroy folds.
paultja is all-In [1665]

HERO??

[lastchance]

6x BB. You're not going to get ITM folding here.

I think I call, but it's a somewhat of a tough one.

[tigerite]

I'd call, and pray that I see Ax, AK, QQ or something along those lines.

[Wevie]

I'm either going to have the stack to win this tourny here or I'm gonna bust out. I don't think I'll see a better opportunity before this is over.

Definitely, somebody has an Ace. And three people have the opportunity to suck out on me.

[tigerite]

[ QUOTE ]
I'm either going to have the stack to win this tourny here or I'm gonna bust out. I don't think I'll see a better opportunity before this is over.

Definitely, somebody has an Ace. And three people have the opportunity to give me all their chips.

[/ QUOTE ]

I've Fixed Your Post.

[Wevie]

lol - yeah, thats much better.

Thoughts:

Cards are dealt - Oh, come on, somebody try to steal.

First Push - Sweet, he's gone

Second Push - Holy @#$ I'm gonna nearly triple up.

Third Push - OK, this is sweet, but what if......

[Maulik]

no.

[Phill S]

SnGs arent long or deep enough to be folding here, as much as you cant like running the board.

This is without you having a read on the last guy of course.

Phill
edit, i checked back, this is a 10+1 so im folding here approximately 0% of the time.

[Wevie]

OMG its a bad beat post:

HERO is all-In [1085]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, Qh, 4h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 4c ]
brazosrower shows [ Ks, 4s ] a full house, Fours full of nines.
turbospede shows [ Ts, As ] two pairs, nines and fours.
paultja shows [ Qd, Qs ] a full house, Queens full of nines.
Wevie shows [ Kd, Kc ] two pairs, kings and nines.

[37offsuit]

[ QUOTE ]
brazosrower is all-In [505] could have any two
Gistan folds.
turbospede is all-In [1945] could be isolating with a small pair
mfcroy folds.
paultja is all-In [1665] ut oh. Now what?
HERO?? isn't as happy as he was when he saw KK

[/ QUOTE ]

One of two things is going on here. Either paultja has AK or QQ and recognized turbospede's isolation play or paultja has AA and is happy to have all this action. If the cards were flipped up and you saw AA, unless it was the short stack who had it you could fold.

This comes down to how certain are you. It certainly appears that one of these spots has AA, but it could be AK-AQ in two spots and a pocket pair in another. You fair very favorably in this spot.

The other option is to fold knowing that either two people are going out on this hand, or at the least one will go out and another will be crippled. If you're looking at two AK's or another split situation between the two bigger stacks, they may end up just dividing up the small stack, or doubling him up. That would be a disasterous result, considering it means you could have eliminated two players and crippled a third.

It's not an easy decision in my mind, and reads would tip this one way or another. Those who are saying essentially "easy call" are likely just those who will never fold Kings preflop ever. Never folding K's preflop can't be too bad EV wise, but I tend to think that there are times when it is a good move because of tournament or clear read situations.