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Old 12-19-2005, 11:11 PM
ddubois ddubois is offline
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Default Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.

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and not rely on what you learned in 10th grade history class.

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10th grade is exactly where you learn the "states rights" revisionism.

This is akin to when people say "It's not about the money, it's the principle". It's about the money.
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:11 PM
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Default Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.

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but I'm running off of very very little sleep and I'm engaged in a rather stupid debate.

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No one asked you to make this thread. You fvcked up, just admit it.

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No, I would of made the thread anyway. I think anyone that is offended by any symbol without looking at it's context is misguided.

I also think that people who claim the confederate flag is about slavery need to look at those pictures, study history, and maybe even take a few road trips.
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:12 PM
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Also, I don't see how the confederate flag represents slavery. The civil war was about states' rights, not slavery. Slavery was a side issue.

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What the confederate flag represents today has very little to do with what the Civil War was about. Why can't you or wacki understand this?
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:12 PM
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Default Re: Controversy over symbols and racism .

i think its hilarious that the mods debate issues like this
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:12 PM
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I also think that people who claim the confederate flag is about slavery need to realize that Kid Rock had a black drummer.

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Old 12-19-2005, 11:13 PM
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why isnt the mod forum transparent to everyone? seems like it should be.

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I'll bite, why?
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:14 PM
ThaSaltCracka ThaSaltCracka is offline
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I do think it has A LOT to do with racism.

[/ QUOTE ] I think racist people have used the Confederare flag as a symbol of their hate. I also think there are a number of people that used the symbol as a part of their Southern heritage. Sadly, for some that heritage includes slavery. I personally like the flag for a number of reasons.
1. It does have a significant historical place here in America.
2. The design is kind of cool
3. It has many strong connotations associated with it.

I think the problem is some people in America for whatever reason lump the Confederate flag in with the Nazi flag, and I think that is unfair.
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:16 PM
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i think its hilarious that the mods debate issues like this

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People will debate all sorts of things on internet forums. I believe that many of those who are most interested in this debate would have wanted to discuss it even if they weren't mods.
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:16 PM
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2. The design is kind of cool

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OOT has proven itself to be opposed to this argument.
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:16 PM
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Also, I don't see how the confederate flag represents slavery. The civil war was about states' rights, not slavery. Slavery was a side issue.

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What the confederate flag represents today has very little to do with what the Civil War was about. Why can't you or wacki understand this?

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The confederate flag symbol, as used in state flags today doesn't represent what the civil war was about, nor does it represent slavery. I don't know the origin of each individual state flag, but I imagine it has to do with the state's history. Isn't the purpose of the flags to represent the hsotry of the state? Why would they ignore a major part of history?
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