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Old 12-15-2005, 11:32 PM
yvesaint yvesaint is offline
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Default why is everyone whining

how can you not win when there are people like this

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Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, Hero raises to $10, 3 folds</font>.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero bets $15, UTG calls $15.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG bets $10, Hero pushes 255.40 (All-In), UTG calls 141.20 (All-In).

Final Pot:

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has Jh Th (two pair, jacks and tens).
Hero has Qh As (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins . </font>
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Old 12-15-2005, 11:34 PM
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we're probably whining because we're playing for more than pocket change.
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Old 12-15-2005, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: why is everyone whining

i wish i was as rich as you and $200 is 'pocket change' anyway OP why the huge over bet on the river?
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:01 AM
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i wish i was as rich as you and $200 is 'pocket change' anyway OP why the huge over bet on the river?

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ill do this sometimes if i hit the obvious draw on the river. sometimes your opponent will think youre trying to bluff, since most fish tend to slowplay every frickin monster hand.
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:06 AM
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Default Re: why is everyone whining

Easy game.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: (9 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, SB calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (7.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Ah 6d (one pair, kings).
Hero has Ts Ac (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins 9.50 BB. </font>
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Old 12-16-2005, 02:19 AM
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Default Re: why is everyone whining

wow
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Old 12-16-2005, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: why is everyone whining

flop bet = wtf?
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Old 12-16-2005, 03:44 AM
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Easy game.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: (9 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, SB calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (7.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Ah 6d (one pair, kings).
Hero has Ts Ac (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins 9.50 BB. </font>

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horrible preflop coldcall. yes it's a button steal and sb could be playing back with any ace, big king, or little pair, but cap it if you wanna play, give yourself the possibility of forcing out the button and getting it hu.
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Old 12-16-2005, 05:25 AM
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Easy game.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: (9 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, SB calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (7.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Ah 6d (one pair, kings).
Hero has Ts Ac (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins 9.50 BB. </font>

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horrible preflop coldcall. yes it's a button steal and sb could be playing back with any ace, big king, or little pair, but cap it if you wanna play, give yourself the possibility of forcing out the button and getting it hu.

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Yes, I wanted to isolate with SB, who was a maniac. However, the PF cap was not the way. I know button will call a PF cap, and he might want to stick around in a bigger pot.

The plan was to either raise SBs bet to force Button out or bet out myself if he checked, forcing button to fear a checkraise from SB. Then once it was isolated, bet the whole way. River bet was for value, not a bluff.
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Old 12-16-2005, 10:35 AM
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OP why the huge over bet on the river?

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I would guess that he surmised it would get called and he was right.
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