($60) I called instantly

durron597 · #1 12-08-2005, 01:09 PM

Villian was playing fairly aggressively, but I hadn't seen him push like this.

How's the rest of the line?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t4755)
Button (t3895)
Hero (t4850)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero completes, BB raises to t400, Hero calls t200.

Flop: (t800) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t400, Hero raises to t1200, BB raises to t4355, Hero calls t3155.

bluefeet · #2 12-08-2005, 01:14 PM

Eh...nut FD, TP for the few times he doesn't have an Ace (though I suspect he might here) - good enough for me.

citanul · #3 12-08-2005, 01:14 PM

i like lead 3 bet more than i like cr call.

bluefeet · #4 12-08-2005, 01:17 PM

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i like lead 3 bet more than i like cr call.

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very nice. got stuck at the 'call this?' end. MUCH better line, ty.

durron597 · #5 12-08-2005, 02:03 PM

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i like lead 3 bet more than i like cr call.

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He minraised me pf, frustrating when I just get called on the flop and the turn blanks off.

gisb0rne · #6 12-08-2005, 02:53 PM

As frustrating as having him call your c-raise and having to decide whether to shove the rest of your chips in on the turn?

durron597 · #7 12-08-2005, 02:54 PM

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As frustrating as having him call your c-raise and having to decide whether to shove the rest of your chips in on the turn?

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Excellent point.

curtains · #8 12-08-2005, 02:59 PM

I think its fine, and I like checking better than leading. You don't mind it if all the chips get in, not at all. The reason is that almost anytime all the chips get in, they would have gotten in if you had led out.

Meanwhile in this spot, they will bet the flop a huge % of the time when you check to them, and you should make a nice amount of change when they have nothing and make a standard continuation bet.

I don't want to bet out with the hope that my opponent raises me with nothing...I feel like more is to be gained by check raising here. On an ace high flop they will bet almost always.

Burno · #9 12-08-2005, 03:10 PM

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As frustrating as having him call your c-raise and having to decide whether to shove the rest of your chips in on the turn?

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Excellent point.

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I kind of assumed that if I decide to go for the c/r here, I've also decided to push the turn if he calls.

Against the right thinking player a minbet lead will get raised big by a wide range.

citanul · #10 12-08-2005, 04:14 PM

but curtains,

while you don't mind all the chips getting in, aren't you also OK with him folding out any ace? i think many people can find a fold with a weak ace or other aces even if they go bet raise 3bet, particularly if you do it with the right tempo. folding out other kings is nice too.

c