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Old 12-03-2005, 03:54 PM
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Default JJ OOP against half the [censored] table

First orbit, no reads, but this table in general has been fairly loose. Also, what do you think of the PFR with jacks in EP? I feel like too often I build pots OOP with hands that can get difficult to play postflop.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (10 handed) converter

SB (t1480)
BB (t1020)
UTG (t1460)
Hero (t1460)
UTG+2 (t2180)
MP1 (t820)
MP2 (t1900)
MP3 (t1420)
CO (t1560)
Button (t1700)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t80</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t80, MP2 calls t80, MP3 calls t80, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: (t350) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero...
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Old 12-03-2005, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: JJ OOP against half the [censored] table

Obviously check fold the flop. I like limping preflop, but some like a raise.
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Old 12-03-2005, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: JJ OOP against half the [censored] table

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Obviously check fold the flop. I like limping preflop, but some like a raise.

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That was originally going to be my plan. I also though about making a smallish CB, closer to 1/2-2/3 pot, but figured that against 3 opponents, it would be too difficult to play on the turn, because while a call could mean a K, it could also mean a flush draw.

Here's what I did:

Flop: (t350) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t45</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Hero calls t45.

I figured that getting 9:1 with the possibility that my hand was good, and since MP2 and MP3 dropped out, I could peel one off, I doubt that anyone disagrees with that. My question is, when the turn blanks, what do you do?

Turn: (t440) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
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Old 12-03-2005, 04:08 PM
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Usually check fold again. Unless he makes another freakishly small bet.
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Old 12-03-2005, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: JJ OOP against half the [censored] table

Not having the J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] hurts your hand more than most people realize.

Anyway, I think you can either lead or c-raise this turn, depending on how those games play and what is most likely to achieve your desired reaction from MP1.
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Old 12-03-2005, 04:16 PM
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Check? Never heard of it.


Turn: (t440) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t220</font>, MP1 calls t220.

River: (t880) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero...
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Old 12-03-2005, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: JJ OOP against half the [censored] table

That was a bad move.
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Old 12-03-2005, 04:17 PM
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Check fold.....again.
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Old 12-03-2005, 04:22 PM
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Also, on the flop, granted you are getting great odds, you have to consider that MP1 was willing to bet into 3 opponents. That in itself indicates strength. I don't even think I'd call the flop bet. There is a very good chance you only have 2 outs.
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Old 12-03-2005, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: JJ OOP against half the [censored] table

I checked, villain checked behind and showed 77, MHIG. This hand felt really awkard, but I felt like I might have done something right at some point here, although I wasn't sure what it was.

Clearly, I butchered the hand, thanks for your insight.
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