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Old 12-03-2005, 07:49 AM
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Default Re: 3/6: Blind Battle - I call down second pair

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JTs on it's own probaply doesn't have an egde over his raising hands first in from the SB, but when taken in to account that you got position and gets the lead over the hand I agree it's a pretty simpel 3-bet

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 47.7882 % 46.28% 01.51% { JTs }
Hand 2: 52.2118 % 50.71% 01.51% { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J6s+, T7s+, 97s+, 87s, 76s, 65s, A2o+, K5o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T8o+, 98o, 87o }

Even with this very broad range JTs is the dog.

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Running a PF hot/cold analysis isn't terribly helpful. I have position here. That's huge. A lot of the time I'm going to take down the pot on the flop or the turn just by betting.
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Old 12-03-2005, 08:01 AM
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Default Lets forget preflop for now...

....and focus on the playing of the hand....

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do you not like a raise at some point in this hand?

If not, why not?
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Old 12-03-2005, 08:12 AM
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Default Re: Lets forget preflop for now...

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....and focus on the playing of the hand....

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do you not like a raise at some point in this hand?

If not, why not?

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Well I called the flop because I thought he had nothing and didn't want him to stop bluffing. The pot wasn’t that big at the time. I think I should have raised the turn though. I'm not sure what I was thinking there. Probably "let him keep bluffing at it," but I think I'm better off punishing him on the turn. As others have stated that river blows.
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Old 12-03-2005, 09:47 AM
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Default Re: Lets forget preflop for now...

The river card shows why you should have raised the turn. You are probably ahead but you can be outdrawn. The turn raise looks as a slowplayed ace.
You also have no guarantee that he will bet the river without an ace. It is very unlikely he will. You will rarely make another 1BB on the river. He will either check-fold the river or outdraw you. However he will payoff the turn raise with a flush draw or a gutshot (KQ etc).

Generally I see this sort of advice repeated all the time:
"Call and let the opponent keep firing b/c if you raise you will make a worse hand fold". Sometimes this is a great line and a lot of times it is just an excuse to play weak-tight passive. (Something like the infamous WA/WB line: "I'm too scared to raise. I'll use the WA/WB line and call down")
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Old 12-03-2005, 05:18 PM
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Predictably he had K3o with no flush draw.
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