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Old 11-25-2005, 06:23 PM
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Default Re: 3/6: 33 HU

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see, a check raise on a drawy flop really nets u nothing here w/ a small pp. You are getting re-raised by a ton of hands, both made and unmade or hes going to pull exactly what he did, call and pull the trigger on the turn.

c/c, and lead a decent turn. If he raises, depending on board and opponent...either fold or be prepared to call and call a blank river...or lead river is a good option as well after calling a turn raise.

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Is the turn lead card spacific? Would you c/c some cards and lead others?
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Old 11-25-2005, 06:28 PM
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No it can be a card that gives u extra outs...a 5, etc. be careful on leading a heart (Id still be very tempted to and probably would...depends), he could free showdown u...Id lead a lot of cards T and below, any card that paired the board..etc. A another heart or diamond, like I said could get him to pop u, maybe he got some extra outs...but at the same time u dont want to give him free cards.

I dont know the skill of your opponent, but playing small pps like this out of position against a good or aggressive player is about some of the hardest play u can come across in holdem.
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Old 11-25-2005, 07:29 PM
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Default Re: 3/6: 33 HU

Well he raised I folded. A couple orbits later against the same guy:

Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(5 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (5.33 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: (3.67 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero...
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Old 11-25-2005, 07:34 PM
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I'm calling that one down because of the history, drawy board and you have a much better hand.
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Old 11-26-2005, 05:40 PM
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I'm thinking c/f the flop is better, but...

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If your plan is to check and fold on the flop, then you really have no business raising preflop.
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Old 11-26-2005, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: 3/6: 33 HU

The way you played it is great. I would also b/f the river.
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Old 11-26-2005, 05:49 PM
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Default Re: 3/6: 33 HU

His stats are passive pre-flop. How often does he fold to a flop bet? I strongly consider just completing pre-flop and leading the flop.
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Old 11-26-2005, 06:13 PM
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I'm thinking c/f the flop is better, but...

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If your plan is to check and fold on the flop, then you really have no business raising preflop.

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Probably a tad results oriented.
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Old 11-26-2005, 06:17 PM
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His stats are passive pre-flop. How often does he fold to a flop bet? I strongly consider just completing pre-flop and leading the flop.

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On that board, practically never. I don't like open completing against people I don’t have a solid read on. I think it puts up in a lot of difficult spots post flop. I think a fold is better then a complete here.
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Old 11-26-2005, 06:34 PM
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Default Re: 3/6: 33 HU

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I'm thinking c/f the flop is better, but...

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If your plan is to check and fold on the flop, then you really have no business raising preflop.

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Ed, you tease. What kind of line would u take here.
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