3/6: AQ UI calldown

imported_leader · #1 11-21-2005, 02:47 AM

MP: 64/9/1.65/48 over 350 datamined hands

Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em (6 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 folds, MP calls, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, MP calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10.33 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP bets, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.17 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP bets, Hero calls.

River: (8.17 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.17 BB.

Does anyone raise somewhere like the turn? Does anyone fold somewhere like the river?

climber · #2 11-21-2005, 02:53 AM

If you disrespect this guy enough to call him all the way down I'd start disrespecting him earlier and just raise the flop and see what happens.

admiralfluff · #3 11-21-2005, 02:57 AM

Do you have any specific reads on this guy? Is he addicted to donk?

imported_leader · #4 11-21-2005, 02:59 AM

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Do you have any specific reads on this guy? Is he addicted to donk?

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Nothing really. I was 6 tabling at the time.

admiralfluff · #5 11-21-2005, 03:04 AM

I think it's pretty likely that if you raise anywhere, this type of player will just donk the next street anyways, possibly with a worse hand. I would call flop, call turn, and look at his WtSD/W$SD and river AF for a guess at the river (I think fold as default).

imported_leader · #6 11-21-2005, 03:13 AM

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I think it's pretty likely that if you raise anywhere, this type of player will just donk the next street anyways, possibly with a worse hand. I would call flop, call turn, and look at his WtSD/W$SD and river AF for a guess at the river (I think fold as default).

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River AF takes a long time to converge I would think, more then 350 hands. WtSD/W$SD 48/41

ArturiusX · #7 11-21-2005, 03:24 AM

Looks ok to me.

admiralfluff · #8 11-21-2005, 03:27 AM

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River AF takes a long time to converge I would think, more then 350 hands.

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Yes, but if it was really high it would be a good indication that he was aggressive on the river, and if it was pretty low it would give you a reasonable guess that he was not extremely aggressive on the river. Just because it is not statistically significant for some arbitrary bounds of convergence, does not mean that it cannot aid us in a guess.

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WtSD/W$SD 48/41

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I would make a probably slightly -EV call, and make a note for him playing whatever he had the way he did.

imported_leader · #9 11-21-2005, 03:29 PM

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make a note for him playing whatever he had the way he did.

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87 [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

kapw7 · #10 11-21-2005, 04:20 PM

You don't have good reads as per the donk bet so fold the turn. If you call the turn then you shouldn't fold the river. (I keep a note of players who raise PF, call flop & turn and then fold the river UI and I bet them with any 2.)