four hands from last night's 45k

nath · #1 11-15-2005, 06:34 AM

I thought these were interesting, or at least somewhat challenging.

Hand 1: Down to 4 or 5 tables. Villain is GambleAB. Been here several orbits and watched him raise that same amount 2-3 times a round. So thoughts on all streets appreciated.
(He bet the flop reasonably quickly, checked the turn instantly, and took 5-10 seconds to bet the river, if you consider those things.)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t12000 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

CO (t62488)
Hero (t206804)
SB (t176496)
BB (t192212)
UTG (t145208)
UTG+1 (t281597)
MP1 (t130634)
MP2 (t64885)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t26400, 3 folds, Hero calls t26400, 2 folds.

Flop: (t57000) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets t26400, Hero calls t26400.

Turn: (t109800) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: (t109800) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets t55000, Hero calls t55000.

Final Pot: t219800

Hands 2-4 are at the final table. My image is pretty LAG if not maniacal. (I busted the 9th place finisher when my failed steal with 43o was reraised all in and I still called getting 3.5 to 1 or so.) Table is fairly tight although they loosen up their reraising standards against me. With that in mind...

Hand 2: What kind of range can I put villain on? He has made a similar raise once or twice before and not shown down but bet very strongly on the flop. And what is my action?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t40000 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero (t1974227)
CO (t242898)
Button (t1111440)
SB (t928056)
BB (t1057440)
UTG (t2003422)
UTG+1 (t1415324)
MP1 (t463693)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to t130000, 2 folds, SB raises to t360000, 1 fold, Hero...

Hand 3: Given my image, what range do you put villain on? Is my opening raise OK? Can/should I call this, and if not, what do I need? He paused for about 15 seconds before making the raise.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t60000 (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero (t1629034)
MP1 (t658338)
MP2 (t852056)
CO (t1131440)
Button (t981422)
SB (t2146824)
BB (t1797386)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t200000, 1 fold, MP2 raises to t849056, 4 folds, Hero...

Hand 4: Villain has raised my big blind every time it has folded to him on the button. I have taken it back twice by pushing all-in (with legitimate hands, but I have not shown them down). How's this move?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t60000 (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero (t1036956)
UTG (t655338)
MP1 (t1809112)
MP2 (t1123440)
CO (t423444)
Button (t2002824)
SB (t2145386)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
4 folds, Button raises to t240000, 1 fold, Hero raises to t1033956...

nath · #2 11-15-2005, 03:02 PM

Bump for the day crowd. Anyone have any thoughts? I had a little trouble with some of these decisions.

#3 11-15-2005, 05:26 PM

hand 1: i think call here on river is fine. if not, then why play A5, bc flop was pretty good.

hand 3: think its a pretty safe call. hes short stacked and been doing it often. its prob a coinflip and your gettinga decent price.

Firefly · #4 11-15-2005, 05:32 PM

1) I dont call that pf, but considering you did, i like the post flop streets.
2) I dunno, but it's close.
3) I might fold pf, but i'm definately folding to the raise. Coinflip looks like the best case scenario
4) I like.

#5 11-15-2005, 05:33 PM

sorry, i guess to answer your question more precisely, on hand 1: given that you checked the turn, you must know that you will face a bet on the river. if you werent comfotable doing that, then bet. but checking and calling the bet on the river i think saves you money as he is then value betting, rather than extracting the maximum. with a bet you can only move him off of draws KQh, or some weird straight draw that he prob. isnt holding.

hand 3: given your image, the range would be fairly large. is he trying to double up, or is he picking on you? either way, i think your call is fine.

odellthurman · #6 11-15-2005, 05:53 PM

I would:
Hand 1 - Raise the flop
Hand 2 - Fold
Hand 3 - Call
Hand 4 - I think this is a standard, good play.

nath · #7 11-15-2005, 11:31 PM

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Hand 1 - Raise the flop

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I treat hand 1 as WA/WB. If I raise I only get action from hands that beat me. I didn't consider the flush draw likely-- but if he does have it, he could reraise all-in unless I committed myself (which would skewer me if I was against a better ace).
If I'm ahead he's probably drawing very slim, plus I have a gutshot to compensate.
The river bet seemed very much like an "I know I can't win this pot unless I bet, so I bet" bet. Getting 3:1 I figure I'm right often enough to call.

I'll give time for more feedback and then I'll post results. Thanks so far guys.

nath · #8 11-16-2005, 03:01 AM

results:

Hand 1: Villain showed Jc9c.
Hand 2: I thought forever and called. I couldn't bring myself to shove and I also couldn't convince myself I was definitely beaten. Flop was ATx, villain immediately moved in, and I folded.
Hand 3: I called. Villain showed AA and it held up. Still don't think the call is a bad play-- but lately I've noticed I'm overplaying those midpairs, or at least finding myself in against an overpair more often than I feel is right.
Hand 4: Villain called and showed KK. It's a move I usually make in this spot, but part of me wonders if he knows I'm restealing and was waiting for a legit hand for his next raise.

Thanks for comments.