10/20 NL: Flopped nut Str8 on a monotone flop!: Line Check! - Page 2

cero_z · #11 10-09-2005, 09:36 AM

Hi hts,

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Does your reasoning change If i tell you that the game is being played shorthanded and I have a great read on the villain? I just did not think he made the flush on the flop.

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This is starting to sound suspiciously like a thread whose only purpose is to deify the poster, who made a great play despite all evidence he was beaten. Of course it changes things if you "know" he doesn't have it; that's why reads should be included the first time around, as should the fact that you're shorthanded. It definitely looks from the flop action alone that you are up against a flush; if your read says otherwise, then act accordingly. But as most folks here have already told you, you shouldn't generally be trying to play a big pot on a monotone flop unless you have a flush.

AggieAce · #12 10-09-2005, 12:25 PM

So, you put them on the A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] why? Because it's pretty much all you can beat! Fold.

DyessMan89 · #13 10-09-2005, 02:45 PM

LEAD THE ********** FLOP. Stop going for the damn check-raise.

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aceferret · #14 10-10-2005, 03:18 AM

If he is really that bad, I find a much better spot to put all my chips in against him.

It sounds like you pushed and won, but a very bad play reguardless of the read. Maybe in a live game I can call w a great read, but otherwise clear fold.

Lucky · #15 10-10-2005, 03:42 AM

If you have a great read, go with it. But dont make the point of this post that is ever anything but a fold generally.

hit_the_set · #16 10-10-2005, 03:52 AM

Yes. I called and he flipped over 8 j ..no hearts! MHIG

This hand was very much read and table dependent. After reading all the responses, It does make me look like an idiot for making that call [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]. Looks like calling is definitely -EV here no matter how good my read may be.

Thanks for all the responses. I just cant fold made hands. Maybe its a leak I have to work on,

Can someone here comeup with a EV formula that has some kind of a read factor included in it? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] (If you know what I am saying)

creedofhubris · #17 10-10-2005, 02:38 PM

Go to pokerstove, put villain on a range of hands, and include: .25: 72o to incorporate times villain is bluffing.