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Old 10-03-2005, 10:49 AM
-Skeme- -Skeme- is offline
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Default Queens.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed)

MP2 ($21.50)
Hero ($51.55)
Button ($129.80)
SB ($30.25)
BB ($65)
UTG ($53.60)
UTG+1 ($88.60)
MP1 ($19.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $2.

Flop: ($5.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6.5</font>, UTG+1 calls $4.50.

Turn: ($18.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $11.5</font>, Hero ??
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Disregard crappy flop raise.
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Old 10-03-2005, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: Queens.

Folds.
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Old 10-03-2005, 11:23 AM
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Default Re: Queens.

If you call this turn bet, you have $31 left, while the pot would be $42 on the river.

So the way i see it, if you call here you must be willing to go to the felt with this hand. With no read I would fold.
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Old 10-03-2005, 11:34 AM
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Default Re: Queens.

Folding is correct. Overplaying overpairs is a huge leak of mine though so I'd probably push.
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Old 10-03-2005, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: Queens.

Ugh yea fold it here as you can't call without committing yourself. Unless of course guy is known idiot. I make it 3$ preflop, but I don't think 2.5 is awful in a stars game. Sorry, I felt like mentioning.
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Old 10-03-2005, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: Queens.

What hands are you putting Villain on?
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Old 10-03-2005, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: Queens.

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Folds.

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We're putting villian on 2-pair/5x calling a HU PF raise?
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Old 10-03-2005, 12:21 PM
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This looks scarily identical to the hand I played last night with KK down.
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Old 10-03-2005, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: Queens.

It's funny, but this is just about the exact line I lost my stack with last night holding AA on a 478r flop. A preflop caller in EP bet into me for 1/2 the pot. I raised a decent, but less than pot-sized raise, then he called and proceeded to bet a little less than half the pot into me when the turn was a brick.

In hindsight, I raised his flop bet for information (and to make draws pay to chase), and his flat call/bet should have been enough information for me to fold on the turn when he kept betting. I think this is a line that reeks of strength. Instead of folding, however, I called the turn bet. Then the pot was so damn big that his 1/4 pot bet on the river (that put me all in by that point) was a crying call. I lost to a flopped straight. But it could have just as easily have been a set. He played it well, I didn't.

I wish I could fold in this spot. But last night, I certainly wasn't good enough to actually do it.
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Old 10-03-2005, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: Queens.

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What hands are you putting Villain on?

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AT
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