Here is the lie of the latest Republican Talking Point

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Here is the Federal Statute that would apply:

R.S.5298 provides, "Whenever by reason of unlawful obstructions, combinations or assemblages of persons, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, it shall become impracticable, in the JUDGMENT OF THE PRESIDENT, to enforce, by the ordinary laws of judicial procedure, the laws of the United States within any State or Territory, it shall be lawful for the President . to employ such part of the land and naval forces of the United States as he may deem necessary to enforce the lawful execution of the laws of the United States ."

So based on the JUDGEMENT OF THE PRESIDENT (this is kind of shakey since we are talking about Chimpy), Federal troops can be sent in for the exact situation we saw in New Orleans, without permission from anyone in the State.

There are provisions for the Legislature (or the Executive, if the Legislature is unavailable) of a State, to request Federal Troops, but it is not a requirement when the conditions of the above are met.

[Matty]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050903/...national_guard

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Several states ready and willing to send National Guard troops to the rescue in New Orleans didn't get the go-ahead until days after the storm struck — a delay nearly certain to be investigated by Congress.

New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson offered Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco help from his state's National Guard last Sunday, the day before Hurricane Katrina hit Louisiana. Blanco accepted, but paperwork needed to get the troops en route didn't come from Washington until late Thursday.

[/ QUOTE ]For those keeping track at home, that's five days. Five days to sign some papers. And BGC rails on Blanco.

No wonder the N.O. Mayor is pissed off and crying.

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You still don't get it. It is a last resort to force ourselves upon a state government, the people of the state elected that state government and have a right to use it. When the state needs help they ask.

Is is presumed that the state government is competent and will enlist federal assistance as needed without the President having to push the governor aside.

Do you think Eisenhower sent the guard to Central High School without first asking Gov. Faubus to cooperate? It was a last resort and was not done lightly. The same principle applies here.

Since the Civil War we have known that in a pinch the feds can supercede the state government. You are telling us nothing new. But we don't routinely ignore the states, which I would think would be obvious to you also.

Now we know that Gov. Blanco is not up to the job. We will keep this is mind for the future.

[Myrtle]

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Now we know that Gov. Blanco is not up to the job. We will keep this is mind for the future.

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...who is 'We'?

[Broken Glass Can]

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Now we know that Gov. Blanco is not up to the job. We will keep this is mind for the future.

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...who is 'We'?

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Everyone. Bush knows that he can't trust her judgement. The people of Louisiana know that they can't trust her judgement. Everyone else knows that they can't trust her judgement.

[Myrtle]

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Now we know that Gov. Blanco is not up to the job. We will keep this is mind for the future.

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...who is 'We'?

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Everyone. Bush knows that he can't trust her judgement. The people of Louisiana know that they can't trust her judgement. Everyone else knows that they can't trust her judgement.

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ty for the clarification.

What do you know about the 5 day delay in the required paperwork?

[newfant]

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You still don't get it. It is a last resort to force ourselves upon a state government, the people of the state elected that state government and have a right to use it. When the state needs help they ask.

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So when the Mayor of New Orleans was on the radio begging and pleading for help from the federal government (and, I might add, given the President a well-deserved cussing out and ass-chewing) does that qualify as "asking?"

Or, should the Mayor have gotten down on his knees and said, "Oh massah, won't you please come help us massah?"

[Broken Glass Can]

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What do you know about the 5 day delay in the required paperwork?

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Its an excuse for inaction that does not hold water. National guard units from Arkansas and elsewhere were there on the first day, because they did not pretend that they were unable to act without redtape.

These governors dropped the ball and are trying to deflect blame. Note that Gov. Richardson in a Democrat with national ambitions.

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The mayor of NO had already made his catastrophic mistakes at that point, and he was in cover-my-ass mode. Balming the Feds and claiming racism are proven effective techniques for diverting attention from your mistakes.

[newfant]

Have you ever considered changing your name to Broken Record?