Why is Hellmuth so bad at cash games????

[TStoneMBD]

his technical skills concerning cash games are debateable. phil has argued that he truely has the technical abilities that some of the best in the world have, but its his steaming that causes him to fail and he cant control it. i think there is some merit to phil's arguement, but i certainly dont think he is one of the best in the world with technical skills. his strengths in nl come from reading players, not from calculating equity.

[cwsiggy]

His reads do seem to be scary good.

[sammy_g]

The skills needed to beat cash games are different than tournaments. Phil is really a NL tourney specialist.

(Also, as others have mentioned, tilt control is more important in cash games.)

[Aaron51_lz]

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Phil just played to many hands. Mason talked about it in his Poker Essays(which number escapes me at the moment) but a player like Phil, who holds his poker ability on such a high level, would seem like he would be playing to many hands. Then the steam factor which has been talked about probably comes into play and he just goes in a downward spiral.

[vindikation]

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The big game players like Todd Brunson can take beats. Did you see him lose with AA vs AT all in preflop that time on tv? It was like it was no big deal to him. If Hellmuth ever took a beat like that, we'd never hear the end of it.

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Jesus did you see Todd Brunson FREAK the phuck out at the dealer last night, when she made a mistake and almost delt the turn without him acting. "What are you doing???" "What were you thinking?"

I was so so about him before that, but now Todd Brunson looks like a complete cock. (not that anyone cares what I think about him)

[mlagoo]

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The big game players like Todd Brunson can take beats. Did you see him lose with AA vs AT all in preflop that time on tv? It was like it was no big deal to him. If Hellmuth ever took a beat like that, we'd never hear the end of it.

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Jesus did you see Todd Brunson FREAK the phuck out at the dealer last night, when she made a mistake and almost delt the turn without him acting. "What are you doing???" "What were you thinking?"

I was so so about him before that, but now Todd Brunson looks like a complete cock. (not that anyone cares what I think about him)

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Was this on Poker Superstars?

And yeah, Todd Brunson has always struck me as kind of a douchebag. I can imagine its hard being Doyle Brunson's son... but I don't know, something about Todd Brunson just makes me dislike him. Maybe it's just his general demeanor. Looks like a spoiled brat (which he likely was).

[vindikation]

Yeah and he quite possibly has THE worst hairstyle in all of poker history. He should be the posterboy for http://www.mulletsgalore.com

[RicktheRuler]

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Looks like a spoiled brat (which he likely was).

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What does a spoiled brat look like? My first thought is not of someone that looks like Todd Brunson that is for sure.

Why was he likely A) Spoiled and B) a brat? Becuase he father has a lot of money? Or because of they way he looks.

On a side note, most people that come from little ($$ wise) and later in life have a lot ($$ wise) often make an extra effort NOT to spoil their children.

[mlagoo]

A spoiled brat, to me, generally looks like a disgruntled person while doing something that most people would be very happy doing (I.E., playing poker professionally).

And besides that, quit being anal. My impression of him is that he's a spoiled brat. Your impression is clearly different. I certainly don't care enough to argue about it.

[sammy_g]

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I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Phil just played to many hands.

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Did you read his Card Player article where he talks about raising every hand preflop in the dark? "It's called experimentation," he says. Terrible.