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View Poll Results: Why is the ace-to-five straight called
Because it's the lowest possible straight. 11 37.93%
Because the ace plays high and low. 18 62.07%
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Old 12-19-2005, 07:48 PM
bozlax bozlax is offline
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Default Re: Thumbs up or down on this hand

Thumbs up on the hand.

Thumbs down on making it a poll. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:07 PM
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Joevak-

call pf call...we have a good hand but OOP vs 3 or more players I dont want to bloat the pot. Since CO raised PF and we have a nice flop the c/r is great- by not 3betting we aren't giving overs/weird draws the odds to call (but that doesn't mean they wont). Turn bet is super standard and I actually like the river. Sure, no reads but what is he raising after a limper that doesn't have us beat? Our only hope is that a river bet will fold a 9 or TT or something. I doubt he bets that river w/ KQ and as far as I can tell everything else has us beat. I dont think we can make QQ or KK fold in this pot for one bet on the river. Some might say bet/fold and try, but I dont think an unknown at 50/1 is disciplined enough to make it.
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: Thumbs up or down on this hand

I'd at least consider 3 betting pre flop to try to get it heads up.

I usually bet the river and fold to a raise because I hate checking and then being in the position of trying to decide whether he's betting a worse hand because I checked or whether he actually has me beat. I think you fold too many winning hands this way and there's absolutely no chance of getting him to fold something better. In this case, there aren't many better hands he could have that he would fold though.
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:08 PM
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Default Re: Thumbs up or down on this hand

You need a thumbs sideways option. I like it up until the river. I much prefer a bet/fold.

-Jaran
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:10 PM
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Well done.
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:15 PM
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The river is the interesting part of this hand.

Without reads, I don't know. I think bet/fold, check/call and check/fold are all close.

Bet/fold is good if he folds a 9.
Check/call is good if he bluffs a busted FD more than 1:9.
check/fold is probably best. There's a good chance his FD probably backed into a pair.

thumbs up.
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