Poll: How has the new level 5 affected your ROI?

[Freudian]

It has been a while since Party introduced the new level 5 with 75/150 blinds. How has it affected your ROI?

What was the old level? When i started playing it was 75/150 (my favorite level to steal blinds!!!!!)

[Freudian]

It went from 50/100 to 100/200.

[Shillx]

I absolutely hate it. All it does is up the varience and time invested and lower the winrate (for push/fold players). So yeah it sucks something bad.

[The Don]

[ QUOTE ]
I absolutely hate it. All it does is up the varience and time invested and lower the winrate (for push/fold players). So yeah it sucks something bad.

[/ QUOTE ]

Is this a joke?

[stupidsucker]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I absolutely hate it. All it does is up the varience and time invested and lower the winrate (for push/fold players). So yeah it sucks something bad.

[/ QUOTE ]

Is this a joke?

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree with him. At the lower levels (11s-22s).

It has helped me plug some leaks in those mid levels, but my variance has shot through the roof. My sample size is 1174 10s and 20s. My roi is 2.44%

[viennagreen]

i'm not sure why the variance would increase though----

reaching level 5 with X number of players and smaller blinds should intuitively benefit a better player... and reduce variance.

i mean--- i believe you guys that you are experiencing higher variance--- it just seems counter-intuitive though.

[Shillx]

Simple example...

You move-in against a single opponent and you both have the same number of chips (say T3000 after posting). He will call your push 20% of the time and everytime he calls it will be a coinflip.

EV (100/200 blinds) : + T250 compared to folding
SD (100/200) : T1298

EV (75/150 blinds) : + T187.5 compared to folding
SD (75/150) : T1320

Less value and more varience with lower blinds. Yuck.

Brad

[stupidsucker]

Here is my theory as to why...

The better players steal their way to victory. Bad players don't. When you add in the extra level the bad players are hanging around longer because its easier to stay alive. Pushes are harder to come by for two main reasons.

More players to push through
Less Blinds to pick up

There are really only 2 sweet spots to steal from at level 5 and that is the SB and the button. These situations come up a lot less for me.... Maybe I have just been unlucky for 1k games.

I dunno, I often see things in a different way than others. If Proper SnG strategy banks on FE due to rising blinds than draging it out longer with a new lower level makes perfect sense to increase variance to me. Had they added a new 5-10 level it would have reduced variance, but 75-150 blinds are damaging most to the players that were tight level 1-4.

Edit:
[ QUOTE ]
I think a contributing factor to the increased variance with the extra level is that the fish are now playing closer to correct. With high blinds they miss sooo many push opportunities, but with the extra level, their incorrect tight-passiveness is less penalized. For example, someone with 8bb will habitually limp in with marginal hands and make it more difficult to push and steal blinds for a good player. This is just a thought, and I'm sure there are more factors that I'm not considering.


[/ QUOTE ]

Exactly...

[ChuckNorris]

I have no idea how it has affected my ROI, since I'm a much better player than I was before it was introduced.