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Old 08-14-2005, 12:52 PM
bobhalford bobhalford is offline
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Default Calling an All-In w/ best hand

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Villain is LAG and trying to steal lost of pots on the flop. We both have about $200.

I have AQo in late position and I raise to $8 with 2 limpers. Villain calls on the button. 1 call, 1 fold.

Flop is Q x x, two spades and I have no spades.

I bet $25, villain goes all in. I put him on a flush draw, as I didn't think he would play a set this way. He also could have been playing Qx this way. I called and he showed 9 5 of spades.

Correct to call off my whole stack? I wanted to fold, but was near certain he was on a draw.

Sorry if this was a stupid question, but I hate calling off my whole stack like that, especially when I get outdrawn!
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Old 08-14-2005, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: Calling an All-In w/ best hand

this is a bad beat post.

you got the money in as 2 to 1 favorite.

1 time in 3 you lose. it happens.

rebuy and continue.
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Old 08-14-2005, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: Calling an All-In w/ best hand

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Flop is Q x x, two spades and I have no spades.

I bet $25, villain goes all in. I put him on a flush draw, as I didn't think he would play a set this way. He also could have been playing Qx this way.


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Which is why semi-bluffs are so powerful. Fold the flop, you have to "know" he has the flushdraw/worse too often for you to be making this kind of call correctly.

Also don't post bad beat stories.
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Old 08-14-2005, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: Calling an All-In w/ best hand

I actually did not intend for this at all to be a bad beat post. I was wondering about the call...I wanted to fold, despite the fact that I figured to have the best hand. I didn't want to commit my whole stack with TPTK, but my gut told me to call cause he's on a draw. I imagine a good argument could be made for folding here?
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Old 08-14-2005, 01:03 PM
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With no read, I would definately fold TPTK here. However, with your read on the villian, I think your call is OK.
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Old 08-14-2005, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: Calling an All-In w/ best hand

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Flop is Q x x, two spades and I have no spades.

I bet $25, villain goes all in. I put him on a flush draw, as I didn't think he would play a set this way. He also could have been playing Qx this way.


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Which is why semi-bluffs are so powerful. Fold the flop, you have to "know" he has the flushdraw/worse too often for you to be making this kind of call correctly.

Also don't post bad beat stories.

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One thing, I assumed Qx meant two pairs and better here. If he moves in with all kinds of hands you beat (flush draw, weaker queens etc.) you obviously call every single time here.
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Old 08-14-2005, 01:15 PM
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Another reason I called was that I think the table perceived me as a bit weak-tight. Villain had seen me fold to aggression a few times and I had a strong suspicion he was putting a move on me, trying to get me to fold.
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Old 08-14-2005, 01:21 PM
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Another reason I called was that I think the table perceived me as a bit weak-tight. Villain had seen me fold to aggression a few times and I had a strong suspicion he was putting a move on me, trying to get me to fold.

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Well your read was correct and you made the correct call then. Reload and move on.
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Old 08-14-2005, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: Calling an All-In w/ best hand

i think this is a very simple call with a read. u r only behind Qx(2pr.)xx(2pr.)& a set+ overpair. if u don't think he plays these hands these ways then u r ahead and would be making a mistake in folding. if u r on a short BR then i could see an argument for folding as it would stop u from being in any other +EV spots for the day. otherwise reload.
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Old 08-14-2005, 10:38 PM
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Never call an all in when you can get outdrawn.
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