Another bottom set post

LetYouDown · #1 11-23-2005, 01:14 PM

Been experimenting with 8 tabling at the $25 NL until I get used to it. Had this hand occur, curious what your thoughts are on any/all streets.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed)

MP3 ($16.55)
CO ($11)
Button ($1.73)
SB ($22.45)
BB ($26.80)
UTG ($8.25)
UTG+1 ($16.36)
UTG+2 ($26.50)
MP1 ($28.90)
Hero ($45.77)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.25, 3 folds, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.25, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $1.5, SB folds, BB calls $1.25.

Turn: ($4) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.5, BB calls $2.50.

River: ($9) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $10, Hero calls $10.

Final Pot: $29

beavens · #2 11-23-2005, 01:15 PM

i like everything but the river.

why o why did you not raise this?

LetYouDown · #3 11-23-2005, 01:23 PM

What do you put him on? He plays the entire hand passively and then wakes up on the river? 2-2? I don't think he's calling raises and check calling the turn with 2-2. No draws got there and I've represented strength on prior streets.

#4 11-23-2005, 01:25 PM

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What do you put him on? He plays the entire hand passively and then wakes up on the river?

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I put him on a 7 and milk him

beavens · #5 11-23-2005, 01:27 PM

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What do you put him on? He plays the entire hand passively and then wakes up on the river? 2-2? I don't think he's calling raises and check calling the turn with 2-2. No draws got there and I've represented strength on prior streets.

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why go to a showdown when you can bet a perhaps get more value out of the hand?

you're only behind 77 and 88 here.

just calling seems like the worst play.

.edit forgot about 78, 73, 72

but i still think you should be raising this.

#6 11-23-2005, 01:28 PM

At $25 NL, Its very likely he had an overpair like AA or KK here and has you on 8s. See it 2 or 3 times a session.
Its more likely he called the flop with second pair and thinks he's ahead on the turn.
Id guess your ahead here 80% of the time.

LetYouDown · #7 11-23-2005, 01:29 PM

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I put him on a 7 and milk him

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Me too, the question is whether it's a lone 7 or not. I forget villain's stats but he was relatively passive and the stop 'n go just reeked of strength to me.

#8 11-23-2005, 01:30 PM

a lone 7 IS strength to many many 25NL players. Thats why it might reek of strength, because trips is overvalued at this level

LetYouDown · #9 11-23-2005, 01:33 PM

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At $25 NL, Its very likely he had an overpair like AA or KK here and has you on 8s.

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] He's checking A-A or K-K from the BB with a field in front of him? And I'm open-limping 8-8 from MP? Then he goes nuts on the river after I seemingly value bet him on the turn?

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a lone 7 IS strength to many many 25NL players. Thats why it might reek of strength, because a set is overvalued at this level

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I assume by "set", you mean trips. Regardless, yes, this is why I felt a call was justified.

beavens · #10 11-23-2005, 01:34 PM

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At $25 NL, Its very likely he had an overpair like AA or KK here and has you on 8s.

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] He's checking A-A or K-K from the BB with a field in front of him? And I'm open-limping 8-8 from MP? Then he goes nuts on the river after I seemingly value bet him on the turn?

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a lone 7 IS strength to many many 25NL players. Thats why it might reek of strength, because a set is overvalued at this level

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I assume by "set", you mean trips. Regardless, yes, this is why I felt a call was justified.

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but youve got a full house...