Steal gone horribly wrong

Vee Quiva · #1 10-26-2005, 12:20 PM

$30 Sit at Party Blinds 25-50
BB is loose passive
Here are stack sizes
sb 355
BB 2090
utg+1 3425
utg+2 550
mp1 440
mp2 335
Hero 730

Hero is dealt K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

It's folded to me and I raise to 150. sb folds and BB calls.

Flop is 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

It's checked to me. I bet 150. Should I give up on steal or with that flop is it ok for the continuation bet? Or should I overbet and push?

BB calls the 150.

Turn is 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

BB checks to me. What's your move?

splashpot · #2 10-26-2005, 12:23 PM

I wouldn't try to steal with K8o.

tigerite · #3 10-26-2005, 12:25 PM

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I wouldn't try to steal with K8o when the BB has t2000 at 25/50 blinds.

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However, I would in some cases here, just not with that guy in the blind

splashpot · #4 10-26-2005, 12:26 PM

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I wouldn't try to steal with K8o when the BB has t2000 at 25/50 blinds.

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However, I would in some cases here, just not with that guy in the blind

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Clearly. That is what I meant, I just didn't feel like typing it.

Nicholasp27 · #5 10-26-2005, 12:27 PM

bb has WAY too many chips for u to be stealing with k8o here

fold pf

once u didn't check flop

once u didn't, push turn...pot is now 625 and u only have 430 left...u got a piece of the flop with good kicker and u have a gutshot straight draw...he likely has 2 dimes, a 5 or a 7 or 2 overs

but u've committed urself so push the turn with some FE

stealing against big stack = -ev

Vee Quiva · #6 10-26-2005, 12:33 PM

With the 2 large stacks and the rest pretty small. Is there anything to be said for stealing against the bigs since they will try and fold into the money?

zambonidrivr · #7 10-26-2005, 12:48 PM

fold preflop. if you want to steal, SHOVE

tigerite · #8 10-26-2005, 01:52 PM

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With the 2 large stacks and the rest pretty small. Is there anything to be said for stealing against the bigs since they will try and fold into the money?

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Big stacks trying to fold into the money? At level 3? With this many players?

You're 'aving a larf.

#9 10-26-2005, 03:21 PM

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fold preflop. if you want to steal, SHOVE

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While I usually shove when I am stealing, I try to mix it up with a smaller raise - to have them thinking I have a huge hand and want aciton.

zambonidrivr · #10 10-26-2005, 03:23 PM

well it didn't work out and you lost your chance at the $150 (if this was a 33).

NH