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Old 09-20-2005, 09:05 AM
1800GAMBLER 1800GAMBLER is offline
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Default Please don\'t wake me, no don\'t shake me, leave me where i am

... i'm only sleeping. No stats

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO pauses for a short time bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO almost auto bets</font>, Hero folds.

Thoughts?
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Old 09-20-2005, 09:09 AM
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Default Re: Please don\'t wake me, no don\'t shake me, leave me where i am

Well, without any reads, turn and river play aren't consistent, I'd either fold the turn or call the river, and lean towards calling the river.
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Old 09-20-2005, 09:16 AM
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Default Re: Please don\'t wake me, no don\'t shake me, leave me where i am

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Well, without any reads, turn and river play aren't consistent, I'd either fold the turn or call the river, and lean towards calling the river.

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It's possible the turn and river are consistent.
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Old 09-20-2005, 09:52 AM
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Default Re: Please don\'t wake me, no don\'t shake me, leave me where i am

I play it the same.
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Old 09-20-2005, 10:03 AM
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Default Re: Please don\'t wake me, no don\'t shake me, leave me where i am

The question is how much more info do you get by his river bet. I would say not much. If he bet any pair lower than jacks on the turn, he's probably gonna do it again on the river. I were in the hand against you I would give up any bluff after the turn since I would assume you would call the river with king high, but a lot of people don't do that, so in your spot I think I would call and be shown an Q, A, or some small-mid pair. . .
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Old 09-20-2005, 10:06 AM
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Default Re: Please don\'t wake me, no don\'t shake me, leave me where i am

well, i dont ever threebet in this sot PF, but who cares, i guess...
im checkraising that flop usually as well.
as played, turn and river are perfect, i think.
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Old 09-20-2005, 10:08 AM
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im checkraising that flop usually as well.

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followed by a turn bet if just called? edit: if the turn is a rag.
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Old 09-20-2005, 10:12 AM
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Default Re: Please don\'t wake me, no don\'t shake me, leave me where i am

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im checkraising that flop usually as well.

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followed by a turn bet if just called? edit: if the turn is a rag.

[/ QUOTE ]dont see another option.
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Old 09-20-2005, 10:22 AM
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Default Re: Please don\'t wake me, no don\'t shake me, leave me where i am

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im checkraising that flop usually as well.

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followed by a turn bet if just called? edit: if the turn is a rag.

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do you not think it's a little excessive? 2bbs to win 5bb when only JJ TT will fold while AK AQ would play this way?

hmm, by combinations (6:6), it's not excessive; surprising.
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Old 09-20-2005, 10:29 AM
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Default Re: Please don\'t wake me, no don\'t shake me, leave me where i am

That turn card helped you enormously, as you just drew out on all pocket pairs JJ and lower. Therefore I think you should call on the end.

The call the turn fold the river line is sometimes OK. But I don't think this is one of those times as there is simply too much chance you are ahead.
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