Too aggressive with QQ here?

skoal2k4 · #1 06-02-2005, 03:26 PM

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 1 fold, CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (7 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, SB folds, Hero 3-bets, CO calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

gehrig · #2 06-02-2005, 03:34 PM

What does your flop three-bet accomplish

skoal2k4 · #3 06-02-2005, 03:43 PM

1) I don't know if he's raising his flush draw, but if he is, I want to charge him for it.

2) If he does have a weak Ace, I'm hoping he'll maybe give it up by the turn or river

RunDownHouse · #4 06-02-2005, 03:46 PM

You'd better rethink reason #2.

skoal2k4 · #5 06-02-2005, 03:50 PM

agreed.... that's something I'm starting to realize as fauly reasoning

gehrig · #6 06-02-2005, 03:54 PM

He'll only fold an ace if a third player starts going crazy, and even then only occasionally

If you think he has either a flush draw or an ace, he needs to have a flush draw twice as often as he has an ace for you to get any value from raising the flop. Actually it's a little worse than that, because sometimes he'll have king outs too.

spydog · #7 06-02-2005, 03:54 PM

Any read on CO?

Without a read I would just call down his flop raise and be prepared to check-fold if the 3rd spade hits on the river.

However, since no spade came on the river I would check-call and hope to snap a bluff from a busted spade draw.

skoal2k4 · #8 06-02-2005, 03:57 PM

so..
bet/call on the flop

what about turn and river? check/call?

skoal2k4 · #9 06-02-2005, 03:58 PM

no, no reads... about the 5th hand since I sat down

gehrig · #10 06-02-2005, 04:13 PM

Your effective odds aren't great, 2.4-1. You need to win the hand 30% of the time to call down.

Typical players at 1/2 aren't very tricky. Peeling one off and seeing a turn isn't horrible, but you don't have much reason to see a showdown here.