100NL : AA avoid paying off a set + weird action

cbloom · #1 12-19-2005, 04:44 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG+2 ($168.05)
MP1 ($84.50)
MP2 ($98.80)
MP3 ($47.37)
CO ($44)
Button ($96)
SB ($101.25)
BB ($111.40)
Hero ($94.85)
UTG+1 ($248.85)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
Hero raises to $4, UTG+1 calls $4, 1 fold, MP1 calls $4, 4 folds, SB (poster) calls $3.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($17) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $12, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $12, SB calls $11.

Turn: ($53) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $20, MP1 calls $20, SB calls $19.

River: ($113) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets $20, Hero calls $20, MP1 calls $20.

Final Pot: $173

Results in white below: 
SB has 7d Jd (flush, king high).
Hero has Ad As (one pair, aces).
MP1 has 5d 5c (three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: SB wins $173. 

Ok, so I screwed up on the river here, it's pretty clear I'm beat at that point. "SB" is making it obvious he's on a draw. When MP1 calls my bet on the turn it's pretty clear he must have a set. Is there a better way to play the turn to avoid losing that extra $20 ?

I hate paying off sets with overpairs, it feels like a leak. I make my money from hitting sets and cracking overpairs, I don't want to just give it back when the roles are reversed.

#2 12-19-2005, 05:39 PM

Check turn. Call a modest bet on the river. I know we have to protect against draws, but as soon as MP gets involved especially on a board like this, you're going to have to let SB take a free card on the turn.

Actually, I think you might have played it as fine as you could. MP's presence complicates the entire hand, and there are times like this where you just have to lose money.

Isura · #3 12-19-2005, 08:11 PM

Dont' mess around here. Raise to $20 on the flop. I am pushing this turn.

Maulik · #4 12-19-2005, 10:54 PM

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG+2 ($168.05)
MP1 ($84.50)
MP2 ($98.80)
MP3 ($47.37)
CO ($44)
Button ($96)
SB ($101.25)
BB ($111.40)
Hero ($94.85)
UTG+1 ($248.85)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
Hero raises to $4, UTG+1 calls $4, 1 fold, MP1 calls $4, 4 folds, SB (poster) calls $3.50, 1 fold.

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You’ve got four players seeing the flop with you. I’d make it $5 or more next time.
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Flop: ($17) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $12, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $12, SB calls $11.

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Pot this flop& hope he doesn’t call.

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Turn: ($53) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $20, MP1 calls $20, SB calls $19.

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Turn, make a real raise or call to keep this pot small if you’re scared. You shouldn’t be.

Edit: Isura’s got the right idea.
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River: ($113) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets $20, Hero calls $20, MP1 calls $20.

Final Pot: $173

Results in white below: 
SB has 7d Jd (flush, king high).
Hero has Ad As (one pair, aces).
MP1 has 5d 5c (three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: SB wins $173. 

Ok, so I screwed up on the river here, it's pretty clear I'm beat at that point. "SB" is making it obvious he's on a draw. When MP1 calls my bet on the turn it's pretty clear he must have a set. Is there a better way to play the turn to avoid losing that extra $20 ?

I hate paying off sets with overpairs, it feels like a leak. I make my money from hitting sets and cracking overpairs, I don't want to just give it back when the roles are reversed.

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Don’t post results. The pot odds don’t justify anything else. If you fold this pot on the river for $20 more &#61516;