River C/R in order here, or did I get out of line?

MisterKing · #1 08-15-2005, 10:23 PM

Opponent is a total fool. He loves to bluff, and more than that he likes to bet when you check to him. He may even 3-bet on a bluff, but that's not all too common. He's 45/5/3.

Like the river C/R, or did I need to do this earlier?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG (Maniacal tard)/ calls, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Maniacal tard calls, SB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Maniacal tard calls, SB calls.

River: (6 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Maniacal tard bets, SB calls, Hero raises, Maniacal tard 3-bets, SB folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB

MisterKing · #2 08-15-2005, 10:42 PM

While we're at it, how about another hand against this clown... Call the frop raise? Lead the turn? As played, what do you when he 3bets the turn?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: (10 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB

disjunction · #3 08-15-2005, 10:44 PM

Looks good to me, if your read is right.

disjunction · #4 08-15-2005, 10:51 PM

This is read dependent. I would call the flop raise if you're prepared to go to showdown with your ace-high. On the turn, it sounds like you think he's autobetting, which makes the checkraise good. And then how you react to the turn 3-bet is again read-dependent. Default is to call down against a maniac unless you have a reason not to (if he's a maniac that doesn't 3-bet).

RunDownHouse · #5 08-15-2005, 11:22 PM

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Opponent is a total fool. He loves to bluff, and more than that he likes to bet when you check to him. He may even 3-bet on a bluff, but that's not all too common. He's 45/5/3.

Like the river C/R, or did I need to do this earlier?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG (Maniacal tard)/ calls, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Maniacal tard calls, SB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Maniacal tard calls, SB calls.

River: (6 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Maniacal tard bets, SB calls, Hero raises, Maniacal tard 3-bets, SB folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB

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If you're playing your hand for deception, you can't slow down when you deceive your opponent about your hand strength. Of course, that's the problem with your river line: you get lost pretty easily. The way you played it, I cap the river. Would the LAGtard wait until the river to raise two pair/straight/a better Q?