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Old 10-13-2004, 10:52 PM
nuclear500 nuclear500 is offline
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Default Just a pair of 7\'s on the turn, 4 flush on the river...

Review this hand - I thought I could out play him on the hand, I didn't expect the four flush board. Do you think I could have made any more, or was I crazy for playing it like this (at all?). My reason for even calling without hitting the board was that I've found in a lot of cases when people insta-bet they are bluffing, hoping their opponent has not caught anything. Hence my raise on the turn when I did pair my seven, his call was a bit interesting, but when the four flush came.....

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (3 handed)

BB (t2675)
Hero (t4890)
SB (t5935)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="CC3333">SB raises to t450</font>, BB folds, Hero calls t150.

Flop: (t1050) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets t150</font>, Hero calls t150.

Turn: (t1350) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets t150</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, SB calls t150.

River: (t1950) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets t350</font>, SB calls t350.

Final Pot: t2650

Results in White:
<font color="white">nuclear500: shows [7d 6d] (a pair of Sevens)
SB mucked [Ks As] - high card Ace
nuclear500 collected 2650 from pot</font>
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Old 10-13-2004, 11:17 PM
rjb03 rjb03 is offline
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Default Re: Just a pair of 7\'s on the turn, 4 flush on the river...

What's with all the min raises?
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Old 10-13-2004, 11:25 PM
housenuts housenuts is offline
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Default Re: Just a pair of 7\'s on the turn, 4 flush on the river...

if you thought you had the best hand you didn't raise nearly enough on the turn.
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Old 10-13-2004, 11:52 PM
SmileyEH SmileyEH is offline
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Default Re: Just a pair of 7\'s on the turn, 4 flush on the river...

I dont like the raise preflop, I dont like the min raise on the turn, and I dont like the weak value bet on the river.

Preflop: If you are going to steal riase to 450 or 500, otherwise limp.

Calling the min raise is fine.

Calling the flop is fine - you have nearly the odds to hit your gutshot.

Turn, If your read is your opponent has nothing you are better off calling - your hand has showdown value. You decided to raise - raise to 1000 at least.

River, You are betting 3rd pair into a 4 suited board with straight potential to a player that has bet and called a raise. Horrible - this is a clear check behind.

So your opponent called you down with AK - 95% of the time you are going to get checkraised the hell out on the river, or pushed on the turn etc. etc. Try not to be results orientated.

-SmileyEH
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Old 10-14-2004, 09:07 AM
nuclear500 nuclear500 is offline
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Default Re: Just a pair of 7\'s on the turn, 4 flush on the river...

That does require explanation:

I had a very hard to read table image imo, min-raising with Kings, calling with Ace's, over betting with a pair of 5's. Raising with trash and showing the bluff. The minraise was really intended to get someone to toss their weakness as it had happened a number of times previously when I did it.
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Old 10-14-2004, 09:10 AM
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Default Re: Just a pair of 7\'s on the turn, 4 flush on the river...

So your advice would have been to check along with him on the river rather then the weak value bet?
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