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Old 01-13-2005, 01:51 PM
emil3000 emil3000 is offline
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The very first hand of a tourney, so no reads. How do I interpret UTG:s play, and what can I expect UTG+2 to be holding.

My reraise was dependant on it being the first hand of the tourney. I occasionally reraise here, and occasionally call.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

BB (t1000)
UTG (t1000)
Hero (t1000)
UTG+2 (t1000)
MP1 (t1000)
MP2 (t1000)
MP3 (t1000)
CO (t1000)
Button (t1000)
SB (t1000)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t80</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t275</font>, UTG+2 calls t275, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls t195.

Flop: (t847.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG is all in. What to do?
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Old 01-13-2005, 02:00 PM
stupidsucker stupidsucker is offline
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First of all, I dont re-raise him preflop. I cold call it, but thats me.

On that flop I fold without hesitation! Had he checked I woulda stabbed at it, but this is no check my friend.
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Old 01-13-2005, 02:03 PM
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I would fold here. to much he can beat you with. you only have 4 outs seeing as he could have a flush draw. and even then he may have AQ or something which will beat u if an A comes up.

David
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Old 01-13-2005, 02:13 PM
emil3000 emil3000 is offline
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I think the flop all in looks really really suspicious. I am very suspicious when in SNG's. People so often do super weird stuff, bluffing and whatnot. It could be a stop'n'go with some pair, but i believe that it could easily be a pure bluff. Anyone think so as well?
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Old 01-13-2005, 02:30 PM
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Though it looks suspicious, you have to give UTG respect with hand. Esp when he raised prelfop.
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Old 01-13-2005, 02:54 PM
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it does look suspicious, but it is not worth going out on. If you are a good player, you can make it up later in the game. if you make a marginal at best call this early, you could be out. remember he did raise pre flop in early position too, so it is likely he has you beat.

David
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Old 01-13-2005, 03:05 PM
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Fold.
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Old 01-13-2005, 03:18 PM
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Clear fold.

Not only do you have to worry about UTG, but UTG + 2 is lurking around with who knows what....

I probably would have just called the raise preflop.
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Old 01-13-2005, 03:28 PM
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I think the flop all in looks really really suspicious. I am very suspicious when in SNG's * * * i believe that it could easily be a pure bluff. Anyone think so as well?

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Can't be concerned about a bluff here. There's another person to act after you who called your raise. You're against 2 hands, and already beaten by any pocket pair (13 hands), and any hand with a Q (12), a 4 (12), a 2 (12), and any two diamonds.

Thats at least 50+ hands that you are already behind. Why would you even think of calling against one, and possibly two, players?

As for reasonable possibilities for UTG, it could be AA, KK, QQ, AQ, 44, 22 that would just push in the hopes that someone holding, say, AK would call because he thinks it might be a bluff all-in...
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Old 01-13-2005, 04:05 PM
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Fold. Looks to me like a made hand (AQ, KQ) trying to get rid of the flush draws.
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