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Old 02-21-2005, 01:31 PM
e_fermat e_fermat is offline
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Default How\'s this for Level 1 to 3 basic strategy?

Ok. I've reached the extent to multi-tabling at 8 tables...I've tried to 12-table using 2 computers but just don't have the dexterity to do it. So in a quest to increase my hourly earn, my new idea is to have my girlfriend start up 8 new tables on another computer while I am on about level 4 on my current set. That way once I am done, I can switch to the games she's started and she can then start a whole new group of 8. Basically, I will only be playing levels 4 and up and she will only be playing levels 1 to 3.

Now the catch is she is not really interested in poker that much and I don't want to overwhelm her with concepts so I want to develop a simple basic strategy for levels 1-3 which requires NO POKER SKILLS as even the AleoMagus guide would be too much for her to follow.

Here is the strategy I came up with:

Party Levels 1 to 3 Basic Strategy

ANY SEAT OTHER THAN BB

AA-KK: Raise to 4BB; all-in if re-raised. Push ANY flop. Call any re-raise/all-in.

QQ-TT: Raise to 4BB; fold if re-raised. Push any flop without higher cards or if a set hits, otherwise check/fold.

22-99: Limp only. Fold to re-raise. Push with set, otherwise check/fold.

AKs/AKo: Raise to 4BB; push any flop with A or K, 4 flush, otherwise check/fold.

Axs: Limp only. Fold to re-raise. Push any flush/4 flush or two-pair, otherwise check/fold.

FROM BB

Facing a raise: Push with AA-QQ; AKs/AKo. Otherwise fold.
Facing all-in: Call with AA/KK.

Flop holding 2 random cards: Push any two-pair. Otherwise check/fold.
Flop holding a pair: Push any set. Otherwise check/fold.
Flop holding 2 suited cards: Push any flush/4 flush. Otherwise check/fold.

I would like to hear comments as to whether this would be practical and what changes you would make to these rules. I am very sure that she would be capable to following this precisely and I will be sitting next to her so she can always ask questions if unsure. I plan this strategy for PP $20's through $50's but would obviously pilot test in the $10's to start and would start her off only 4 tabling (she plays for me occasionally now when I need to take a break with some simple rules so she is not totally unfamiliar with poker).

Obviously I am giving some value by folding to min-raises, folding OESD's, not utilizing check-raises, etc, etc. Also, I would not have any reads on players when I take over at level 4 cold. However, I think this strategy would be close enough to standard play that any difference would hopefully be minimal. Currently, I have about a 20% ROI so basically any ROI greater than 10% would still be $/hr positive, especially including rake-back. I have a sneaking suspicion that in fact my ROI would suffer less and may only see a 5% or so decrease. Again, that's just speculation though.

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Old 02-21-2005, 01:42 PM
wegs the wegs wegs the wegs is offline
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Default Re: How\'s this for Level 1 to 3 basic strategy?

My biggest suggestion would be to marry her before she gets sick of playing poker for you.

You better be buying her nice things.
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Old 02-21-2005, 01:46 PM
FishBurger FishBurger is offline
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Default Re: How\'s this for Level 1 to 3 basic strategy?

Do you really want her to push any 4-flush from the BB in levels 1-3? She'll only get called if she is beat.
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Old 02-21-2005, 02:12 PM
e_fermat e_fermat is offline
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Default Re: How\'s this for Level 1 to 3 basic strategy?

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Do you really want her to push any 4-flush from the BB in levels 1-3? She'll only get called if she is beat.

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True. This could easily be a push while holding 32s and may represent a leak. At the same time, perhaps only pushing a flush/4 flush holding an A or K of the suit is too tight. It really depends on the number of limpers but again, that requires too much poker skill to judge. I imagine the CEV in either case is not huge, it doesn't come up enough since there will only be 3 BB plays before level 4 and probably only half of those will deal with unraised pots.

I also realized I haven't dealt with flopped straights but I think I will propose pushing all made straights (regardless of tone of board) and check/folding all OESD's.
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Old 02-21-2005, 02:38 PM
GimmeDaWatch GimmeDaWatch is offline
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Default Re: How\'s this for Level 1 to 3 basic strategy?

This is funny. I am laughing.
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Old 02-21-2005, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: How\'s this for Level 1 to 3 basic strategy?

Hahah yeah, great post and neat idea. Good luck with it!
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Old 02-21-2005, 02:41 PM
valenzuela valenzuela is offline
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Default Re: How\'s this for Level 1 to 3 basic strategy?

LOL, u better buy her stuff...my preflop strategy is the following...
USE UNTIL U HAVE 10X THE BB OR THEY ARE ONLY 6 PLAYERS LEFT.
AA: Raise to 5x the maximun bet( I dunno the name of the concept..but if some guy bets 50 u raise to 250)40% of stack rule applies.
KK: Same as AA.
QQ: EP: raise 5x the BB , if the pot has been raised fold.
LP: raise 5x the BB , if the pot has been raised call. fold to all-ins.
AK: Same as AA
JJ-TT: Same as QQ but without raising.

If you can reach 6 players with ure initial stack we are looking at a profitable situation, if u dont get a hand you will have like T850( with initial 1000) but since we have the image of a ROCK, i mean a ROCK we can easily get to 1000 by stealing..even the avg $11 joe will notice our tight play by simply looking at our stack.

Im probably hallucinating since I use this for UB and in that structure I have a lot of possiblities to steal blinds.
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Old 02-21-2005, 02:47 PM
se2schul se2schul is offline
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Default Re: How\'s this for Level 1 to 3 basic strategy?

I'm not laying down QQ in level 1 when a fish reraises me with his AQ or his KJs or his 99. I don't know what levels you're playing, but at $11 and $22, I'm just not laying QQ down that easily.

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Old 02-21-2005, 02:59 PM
valenzuela valenzuela is offline
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Default Re: How\'s this for Level 1 to 3 basic strategy?

It is -ev on chips to fold queens...But I think the blind stealing possiblities later on are worth it on money terms...I use this strategy for $11 on UB.
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Old 02-21-2005, 03:00 PM
e_fermat e_fermat is offline
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Default Re: How\'s this for Level 1 to 3 basic strategy?

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If you can reach 6 players with ure initial stack we are looking at a profitable situation, if u dont get a hand you will have like T850( with initial 1000) but since we have the image of a ROCK, i mean a ROCK we can easily get to 1000 by stealing..even the avg $11 joe will notice our tight play by simply looking at our stack.

Im probably hallucinating since I use this for UB and in that structure I have a lot of possiblities to steal blinds.


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No, you're not hallucinating, a rock image is indeed important for blind stealing later which is why I've left out playing broadway cards like KQs. I guess the only key difference between my hands and your hands is I'm also playing low PP's and Axs. I did use my own pokertracker stats as a guide to developing these general rules as I saw all my low pockets are +CEV and most Axs down to about A4s are also +CEV at levels 1 to 3. However, pokertracker can't measure the image factor of additional steals towards the bubble so maybe I should consider simplying more.

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LOL, u better buy her stuff...

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Yes. She will be well compensated for her time...I will do anything in bed that she asks for. Ok seriously, she'll get lots of jewelry.
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