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Old 04-30-2005, 07:21 PM
BottlesOf BottlesOf is offline
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Default 23o--maybe this is why i don\'t win more?

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $5.
UTG calls, MP calls, Hero (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG folds, MP calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (7.20 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, BB calls.

River: (11.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 11.20 BB

Seriously though, any problems here?
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Old 04-30-2005, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: 23o--maybe this is why i don\'t win more?

I don't call that preflop raise. I also don't know about the flop call- BB bet into a big field and a preflop raiser. he didn't try to checkraise the button, which means that he most likely wants as much money in the pot as possible- haveing the button raise behind you would be bad.
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Old 04-30-2005, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: 23o--maybe this is why i don\'t win more?

I think everything is fine short of the preflop call. flop call is pretty marginal, even at 12-1, but I make it too
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Old 04-30-2005, 07:34 PM
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Default Re: 23o--maybe this is why i don\'t win more?

Yea I'd usually fold preflop too, but I think I was so happy with being dealt the worst possible hand that I just had to give it a go when it wasn't too much of a mistake.
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Old 04-30-2005, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: 23o--maybe this is why i don\'t win more?

The more i think about it the less i like the flop call.

Tainted outs and redraws all around. I think you made two bad moves in this hand.
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Old 04-30-2005, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: 23o--maybe this is why i don\'t win more?

He shouldn't have posted.

That mistake led to all the rest.
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Old 04-30-2005, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: 23o--maybe this is why i don\'t win more?

posting is fine.
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Old 04-30-2005, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: 23o--maybe this is why i don\'t win more?

His posting has nothing to do with the flop decision which is an easy fold.
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Old 04-30-2005, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: 23o--maybe this is why i don\'t win more?

Why is it okay to pay $5 to see 2-3 hands with none on the button when you can pay $7 to see 5-6 hands including one on the button?
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Old 04-30-2005, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: 23o--maybe this is why i don\'t win more?

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His posting has nothing to do with the flop decision which is an easy fold.

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no it's not an "easy" fold. against people who will pay you off and overplay their hands, his implied odds are nice, and aside from the clubs, his outs aren't likely to be tainted
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