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Old 12-19-2005, 11:16 PM
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Default A study in fascist behaviour

Not just the NSA.
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:24 PM
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Default Re: A study in fascist behaviour

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Not just the NSA.

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*************************Warning****************** **********

You are now on the NSA's watch list!!!!
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:29 PM
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Default Re: A study in fascist behaviour

I read that the other day, but the main question is whether it is a credible report or not, especially since it is more reminiscent of the Vietnam War era FBI and Mao doesn't really have any relevance to today's terrorist threats. In other words, find a major media outlet that repeated this story.
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:28 AM
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Default Si non e vero

Do you really doubt that library choices are being monitored? Only the other day, the relevant provisions of the PATRIOT act were extended.

And if someone is monitoring libraries and what books people are borrowing to read, isn't it natural that there will be an investigation when a book in the "watch list" is being borrowed?

This seems absolutely par for the course. A natural consequence of monitoring libraries, books and ideas.

Libertarians should be up in arms. But they are busy fighting for their right to hunt fowl.
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Old 12-20-2005, 05:06 AM
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Default Plucking petals

Unfortunately many of the self proclaimed, proud libertarians (and conservatives too, I am sad to report) on this forum have their heads filled with the 21st century version of the girl picking petals of a daisy that they have lost sight of the word LIBERTY.
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:36 AM
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Alot of us don't like the patriot act, but what do you want me to do. I didn't vote for Bush.
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:58 AM
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Yeah. I've been uncomfortable with the Patriot Act from the outset, and have written my reps more than once. Like you, I didn't vote for Bush in either '00 or '04. I wonder which libertarians on this board they see as supporting it?
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:02 AM
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When was asked if American will ever have facism, he said yes, we will call it democracy.
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:05 AM
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I'm still waiting for indpendent corroboration of that story by another media source. Found it yet?
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:09 AM
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No offense guys. I admit I wrote too hastily.

I see the words conservative and libertarian used by some (although not by Kurn and some others) and see support for various non-conservative activities by the administration and I am perplexed. Then they take anyone who dares point out that these are neither conservative policies (and I am talking about the Patriot act, the Iraq invasion, the fiscal insanity) but are infact un-American in principle and label the critics as naysayers or defeatists or liberals (a word that has been redefined by the republicans).

So, for those self confessed libertarians and conservatives who are against the foolishness emanating from the whitehouse -- my apologies. The rest of you well ....
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