In anticipation of the end of mining after Party Beta takes effect

I am datamining with Partybeta and have been for the last couple of weeks. I had to reconfigure pokertracker a little to make it work, but nothing special.
Did they release a more recent update of the beta that prevents this or do you all just have bad information???

[Wynton]

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I am datamining with Partybeta and have been for the last couple of weeks. I had to reconfigure pokertracker a little to make it work, but nothing special.
Did they release a more recent update of the beta that prevents this or do you all just have bad information???

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Are you datamining observed hands or merely using PT to record your own play at tables? PT will continue to work to record your own play, but reportedly does not permit tracking observed hands at the beta.

[PokerAce]

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I am datamining with Partybeta and have been for the last couple of weeks. I had to reconfigure pokertracker a little to make it work, but nothing special.
Did they release a more recent update of the beta that prevents this or do you all just have bad information???

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You are using the older beta.

[jba]

Wynton,

I think there are two versions of the beta floating around. I downloaded on the first couple of days, and I'm definitely getting the play-by-play in the chat window and hhf files.

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I am datamining with Partybeta and have been for the last couple of weeks. I had to reconfigure pokertracker a little to make it work, but nothing special.
Did they release a more recent update of the beta that prevents this or do you all just have bad information???

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You are using the older beta.

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That explains it. I hope I can keep using it.... forever.
I'll trade the crashes every 4 hours for the ability to datamine (and resize tables).

[imported_leader]

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"Dear Player,

With reference to your mail please be informed that a observer player cannot save hand histories unless and until you take a seat at a table.

Such a feature will not be available in future."

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How does this company stay in business? Morons!

[OrianasDaad]

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This is rediculous. PT software, and mining, in the hands of good players, confer a rediculous advantage.

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Good players confer unto themselves a large portion of the advantage. PT doesn't make good players better, it makes them more efficient.

In a B&M, it's easy to focus on one table. PT and PAHud help internet players get the same loose/tight-passive/aggressive reads that they would get without it at one table. It facilitates multi-table play.

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For example, in a $600 NL I was playing, a very good player that I will not name, called my CR all in with a QJ high board, on the turn, with 55, because of my VPIP and PFR statistics.

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In a post I did earlier in the year (software forum), it was seen that the vast majority who responded to the poll used primarily VPIP, PFR, and AGG and not much else. I don't use much more than that myself on a regular basis. I do spend an hour or two each day studying the play of a regular opponent. A read like this doesn't come from VPIP and PFR, either, but you already knew that.

It might help if you didn't call all-in raises with unimproved JT overcards either.

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I think its unfair that, essentially, anyone that wants to play high stakes and not get crushed needs to set up 2 computers, screen scraping software, PT datamining, etc. - its just stupid. I say ban it all.

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Or learn how to use the tools that are availible.
Or learn to play a poker variant that isn't supported by PT.
Or play at a site that isn't supported by PT.
Or play in a B&M casino.
Or play according to your opponent, and not dogmatically.

That's all I got. Another 20 minutes down the drain. Posting is generally -EV, I'm coming to consider. Oh, VTW, who cares what Party does? As long as it doesn't go back to e-mailed hand histories, I'm OK with it.

[OrianasDaad]

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How does this company stay in business? Morons!

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Seriously? PokerRoom doesn't save observed hand histories either, and they are doing pretty well.

[jba]

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How does this company stay in business? Morons!

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Seriously? PokerRoom doesn't save observed hand histories either, and they are doing pretty well.

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- you didn't get it. try parsing the quoted email one more time

- pokerroom isn't "doing pretty well" compared to party and it isn't close

- you can get pokerroom hand histories without even observing

[Sniper]

I may be wrong, but I think he was referencing their use of the English language [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]