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Old 08-09-2005, 01:35 PM
josh3336 josh3336 is offline
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Default Pocket Jacks in a big 3-way pot....

Ok so this was in a 25NL game with some pretty crazy players. They were very aggressive and calling with very weak hands. I was fairing well by just playing pretty tight and then this hand came around. How do you think I played this? What should I have done differently?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($24)
<font color="#C00000">UTG [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]Villian Two)/ ($93.70)</font>
UTG+1 ($11.75)
MP1 ($62.20)
MP2 ($60.30)
Hero ($100.10)
CO ($31.90)
Button ($67.20)
<font color="#C00000">SB [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]Villian One)/ ($87.42)</font>

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]Villian One)/ posts a blind of $0.25.

UTG [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]Villian Two)/ calls $0.50,
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>,
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $1</font>,
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>,
CO calls $3,
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>,
SB :Villian One)/ (poster) calls $2.75,
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>,
UTG [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]Villian Two)/ calls $2.50,
MP2 calls $2.

Flop: ($15.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Villian One bets $12</font>,
Villian Two calls $12,
MP2 calls $12, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $40</font>,
CO folds, Villian One calls $72.42 (All-In),
Villian Two calls $78.70 (All-In),
MP2 folds,
Hero folds.

Turn: ($242.62) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: ($242.62) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $242.62
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Old 08-09-2005, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: Pocket Jacks in a big 3-way pot....

if stacks are this deep, I like raising more preflop.

you should be wary of putting in money post flop though.

and when stacks are this deep, you should play looser preflop and tighter postflop.
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Old 08-09-2005, 01:41 PM
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I think if you can't call the remaining 50 here getting 5:1 on your money then you should probably just fold the flop - if the game is really crazy you have considerably more than 20% equity against their combined range of hands - I would guess they have a smaller overpair and a nut flush draw between them. A set is possible but I don't think you see a set often enough to fold here
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Old 08-09-2005, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: Pocket Jacks in a big 3-way pot....

How can you fold once you made that huge raise and got 2 calls....you have to call like 30 bucks to win 250.....how can you fold here against a couple of maniacs?
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Old 08-09-2005, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: Pocket Jacks in a big 3-way pot....

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How can you fold once you made that huge raise and got 2 calls....you have to call like 30 bucks to win 250.....how can you fold here against a couple of maniacs?

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here here!
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Old 08-09-2005, 06:22 PM
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Villian One shows [ 5s, 6s ] a straight, three to seven.
Villian Two shows [ Qh, 7h ] two pairs, queens and sevens.

I don't know I guess I didn't play it to great I wanted to get at least one of them out with the raise but when I saw I didn't I just decided to get out.
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Old 08-09-2005, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: Pocket Jacks in a big 3-way pot....

Generally speaking, you don't want to be going broke with a with just an overpair.

I know this sounds amazingly weak-tight, but I may just fold the flop.

After donk a donkbets the pot, and 2 people cold call that, if you still have the best hand here, you are NOT much ahead at all.

I think the raise was terrible. Name a single turn card that doesn't scare you to some extent? I guess the 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]maybe, or a Jack, but almost every card in the deck hurts your hand significantly.

If these people are really that much of donks, I may call the flop. But again, I really don't want to be gambling for my stack against 3 people with just an overpair.... or at least on that board I don't.
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Old 08-09-2005, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: Pocket Jacks in a big 3-way pot....

I thought I could get them to fold their draws, I guess I couldn't have been more wrong.
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Old 08-10-2005, 05:24 AM
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Default Re: Pocket Jacks in a big 3-way pot....

You cant fold for that price, 35 for a shot at a 250 pot ?
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