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Old 04-06-2005, 07:38 PM
Guido Guido is offline
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Default Finally at 15/30... A9s in CO... call, call, call, call

After playing around half a year at 6-max tables at both 5/10 and 10/20, I finally decided to move up to 15/30. I was pretty decent at the full ring tables but this was at the lower limits. After this much time of, my game is pretty rusty.

Since I haven't played a lot of hands at this limit and this was one of the first hands at this table, I don't have any reads except that MP1 and MP2 are very bad players.

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (7 handed)

Preflop: Guido is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Guido calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Guido calls.

Fold or call getting 16:1 AND closing the action?

Turn: (8.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG folds, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Guido calls, SB calls, MP1 calls.

River: (16.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Guido calls, SB calls, MP1 folds.

Raise or call?

Thanks,

Guido
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Old 04-06-2005, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: Finally at 15/30... A9s in CO... call, call, call, call

Could probly raise here. Anyone with a piece will normally stay getting 8:1.
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Old 04-06-2005, 07:45 PM
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Default Re: Finally at 15/30... A9s in CO... call, call, call, call

Does the fact that the board paired, influence your decision? Or don't you like going for overcalls...

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Old 04-06-2005, 07:46 PM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Default Re: Finally at 15/30... A9s in CO... call, call, call, call

I think a raise is probably good here. At best you get two overcalls, on average you're probably getting one. A raise will almost certainly get you one more from the bettor, and you may get a cold-caller. On average, I think a little more money goes in with a raise. If the pot were five-handed instead of four or if there were more scary things on the board suggesting you might be beat I would vote for calling, but raising seems the play here.
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Old 04-06-2005, 07:58 PM
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Default Re: Finally at 15/30... A9s in CO... call, call, call, call

Yeah but is this a standard cold call preflop?
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Old 04-06-2005, 08:00 PM
Steve Giufre Steve Giufre is offline
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Default Re: Finally at 15/30... A9s in CO... call, call, call, call

Seems close but I like calling better. You might get one, or even two overcalls, and I hate to have to pay off a three bet, which you would obviously have to. He is showing a lot of strength firing at that river in a four way pot. I do think you probably have the best hand, but I dont think that is reason enough to raise here.
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Old 04-06-2005, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: Finally at 15/30... A9s in CO... call, call, call, call

I agree. I made no comment on the pre-flop call. It depends on game positions, but I have to think at any reasonable 15/30 that this should be a pre-flop fold. It is not all that likely that your A outs will be good; you are likely to be dominated; top-pair top kicker will be in huge reverse-implied odds trouble; the nut flush combo is not enough to play on. Thoughts?
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Old 04-07-2005, 01:06 AM
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Default Re: Finally at 15/30... A9s in CO... call, call, call, call

Gotta raise the river.
Flop call is fine getting 16:1 and closing the action.
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Old 04-07-2005, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: Finally at 15/30... A9s in CO... call, call, call, call

i like it alot, well played.
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Old 04-07-2005, 05:22 AM
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Default Re: Finally at 15/30... A9s in CO... call, call, call, call

MP2 doesn't look like he's got a set of tens or sixes. He might have a set of fours turned into a boat but if he's terrible I think you can raise the river and come out ahead. Fear the boat? If there is no reason, then I assume it's not there.

Otherwise I like the play.
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