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Old 11-25-2005, 04:21 PM
Pog0 Pog0 is offline
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Default Rake comparison: PR and Party

Looking at the rake structures on their websites, it appeared to me as though Party's rake would be significantly lower than Pokerroom's. According to a commercial website, the numbers are closer than I would expect.

3/6
PokerStars $9.92 per 100 hands, 2.57% of the pot
Ultimate Bet $11.23 per 100 hands, 3.04% of the pot
Party $13.87 per 100 hands, 3.06% of the pot
Absolute $14.85 per 100 hands, 3.79% of the pot
PokerRoom $16.58 per 100 hands, 3.84% of the pot

5/10
Absolute $19.24 per 100 hands, 2.99% of the pot
Party $19.87 per 100 hands, 2.71% of the pot
PokerRoom $21.40 per 100 hands, 2.88% of the pot

PokerStars $22.59 per 100 hands, 2.50% of the pot
Crypto $22.66 per 100 hands, 3.18% of the pot
Paradise $22.86 per 100 hands, 2.84% of the pot
Pacific $24.97 per 100 hands, 2.92% of the pot

Looking at the rake structures for pokerroom and party, one would think that party's rake would be much lower at these levels.

Party takes 5% up to $3 starting at $20
PR takes 10% starting at a 2BB pot (and even a little before that for any hand that sees a flop), capped at $3.

So if I steal, get called and make a continuation bet and have the big blind fold, at PR I'm paying $1.20 on the $13.50 pot (+$3 unmatched), while at party I'm paying $0. This alone is huge.

Since at 5/10, this is no longer the case and I'm paying $2 at PR and $1 at party in the same situation, I can see how the numbers will converse slightly as they do in the data above.

It still seems unreasonably close since essentially, PR charges 10% and Party 5% to the same max.

If anyone has any input or if they've done a similar analysis before, I'd love to put this matter to rest. I can't run PT stats to compare since I don't play at party.

Do me this little favor to put it to rest:
If someone could just do a quick calculation in their game notes section of PT, just filter for party 3/6 (10max), get all, and do the sum of ( "Rake" / APH ) / "Games played"

If you do this, make sure the date range only applies to the latest rake structure. I'd love to get some results for 2/4 through 15/30 if possible.

A PR sample of mine:

2/4, 27428 hands, 27463.90 rake, 9.36 APH yields $0.1070 or 2.674 BB/100

3/6, 9175 hands, 13918.20 rake, 9.4 APH yields $0.1614 or 2.7 BB/100

5/10, 7860 hands, 14784.50 rake, 9.31 APH yields $0.202 or 2.02 BB/100

Note: 2/4 and 3/6 should theoretically have the same rake, since it's capped at 1 SB and is taken at the same rate. 5/10 is lower because the cap is still $3, now 0.6 SB.

I'm aware that this method won't be entirely accurate, but fairly close. To make this completely accurate, I'm guessing one would have to filter for 10 players, 9 players, ..., 2 players. As an additional note of interest, does anyone know how to do this with PT or alternatively, know of an addon that can do this if PT can't?
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