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Old 12-06-2005, 06:48 AM
Shillx Shillx is offline
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Default Re: $55: Big stack raises, anemic stack folds, Hero???

He should have pushed here. He should be pushing over 80% of the time here with the stack situation. Everyone is saying that he is a good player, so maybe he has a monster???

He bet enough to put the short stack all-in, so he should have just pushed it to prevent this exact situation. Makes me wonder if he wants you to push over the top of him. Unless you fear a monster I would push this one for sure. If he pushed and he is any good, you should be calling with 99. Plus the extra folding equity and you are good to go. Now if he isn't good and is on a tight range then you should just fold and pick a better spot.
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:10 AM
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Default Re: $55: Big stack raises, anemic stack folds, Hero???

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If he pushed and he is any good, you should be calling with 99.

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I'm pretty sure that's wrong. If he pushes and short stack folds, you should be folding 99 for sure. Run it through SNG power tools with the push containing any face card and it's still -$EV.

Isn't that the whole idea behind pushing as the big stack when there is a small stack around? Your opponents can't profitably call?
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:55 AM
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Default Re: $55: Big stack raises, anemic stack folds, Hero???

My thought is that a thinking player makes this small raise mostly with weak/semi-weak hands with the intention of letting it go. I expect to see a monster rarely and almost never a very good hand. I push.
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Old 12-06-2005, 09:39 AM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Default Re: $55: Big stack raises, anemic stack folds, Hero???

Fold.

Look at the situation. You are in all-in or fold territory. There are 3 even stacks and one with barely more than he needs to pass through the blinds. Why risk your entire stack against someone who has you covered. You can't put in 1/3 of your stack and then fold later in the hand.
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Old 12-06-2005, 09:50 AM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Default Re: $55: Big stack raises, anemic stack folds, Hero???

because he's a relatively good player... trust me

If he's putting in 25% of hgis stack intending to fold to a reraise, he's only good relative to idiots.


I think you have his range crushed

So what you're saying is you're sure he does not have AA-TT, AK-AT, KQ-KT, QJ, QT, JT? Because if even half these hands are in his range, 99 is barely a 3:2 favorite.

Horrible assumption considering the chip situation.
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Old 12-06-2005, 09:58 AM
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Default Re: $55: Big stack raises, anemic stack folds, Hero???

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because he's a relatively good player... trust me

If he's putting in 25% of hgis stack intending to fold to a reraise, he's only good relative to idiots.


I think you have his range crushed

So what you're saying is you're sure he does not have AA-TT, AK-AT, KQ-KT, QJ, QT, JT? Because if even half these hands are in his range, 99 is barely a 3:2 favorite.

Horrible assumption considering the chip situation.

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Thing is he will probably fold AT KJ KT QJ and below, and its not very unlikely that he'll be folding AJ QK as well.

I may push this depending on what kind of read I have on this player. TT i probably push 70% of the time, JJ 100%.
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Old 12-06-2005, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: $55: Big stack raises, anemic stack folds, Hero???

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He should have pushed here. He should be pushing over 80% of the time here with the stack situation. Everyone is saying that he is a good player, so maybe he has a monster???


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This is exactly what I'm thinking.
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Old 12-06-2005, 12:03 PM
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Default Re: $55: Big stack raises, anemic stack folds, Hero???

I cant think of anyway to play this hand besides folding it.

FWIW, I have called here numerous times and I think overall it has hurt me. IOW, I havent called here for a profit, but simply for ego's sake. Folding is the best play.
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Old 12-06-2005, 01:29 PM
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Default Re: $55: Big stack raises, anemic stack folds, Hero???

I think I'd fold. First of all, if it was me making that raise, I'd have a monster probably.

If you push here and get those extra chips, it does help you, but busting out here would be catastrophic. You would have to be very sure he'd fold a lot (>80% of the time I think)
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Old 12-06-2005, 01:40 PM
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Default Re: $55: Big stack raises, anemic stack folds, Hero???

The only time you should push here is when I am the short stack.
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