Call or fold?

Garland · #1 10-15-2005, 04:05 PM

I'm playing pretty tight aggressive, but the villian doesn't know me too well as we haven't played too many hands together.

Villian is standard, but again, not much known.

Like the TV commercials: Hold em' or fold em'?

Garland

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (8 handed) converter

UTG ($548.25)
UTG+1 ($284)
MP1 ($976.85)
Garland ($600)
CO ($116.90)
Button ($568.55)
SB ($791.10)
BB ($600)

Preflop: Garland is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $24, 1 fold, Garland raises to $66, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls $42.

Flop: ($141) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $218 (All-In), Garland ???

Rocaix · #2 10-15-2005, 04:09 PM

Against an Unknown, Hold'em.

kagame · #3 10-15-2005, 04:27 PM

please dont emulate that commerical

only if youre posting from inside a fridge

i always call here though

JKratzer · #4 10-15-2005, 04:36 PM

call

Garland · #5 10-16-2005, 06:18 PM

I thought since we didn't know each other, my opponent didn't know if he had fold equity against me or not. I've already represented a monster, so I felt he had to have "something" to make this push. So I'm assuming he's sane 95% of the time. So now I have to put him on a range of hands:

x% of the time he has a flush draw and is a 2:1 dog
y% of the time, he shows me the nuts: Qx, QQ, 44 and I am a about a 9:1 dog vs this range.
5% of the time, he's screwing around or has KK, JJ, etc. I assume I win 95% of the time as he could back into some kind of hand and I'm a 19:1 favorite.

Doing the math online in my head is quite difficult. Can anyone figure out what x% and y% is the breakeven point for calling here?

Garland

bigt439 · #6 10-16-2005, 06:21 PM

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5% of the time, he's screwing around or has KK, JJ, etc.

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I think this number is waaaaaaaaay off. I think he has KK or JJ and even a bit lower alot. Why the hell would he do this with a Q? It would make almost no sense.

soah · #7 10-16-2005, 08:25 PM

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Why the hell would he do this with a Q? It would make almost no sense.

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MTBlue · #8 10-16-2005, 09:29 PM

Short stacks push with all types of stuff. I think the post might be more interesting if you were contemplating calling with 77. With AA you are ahead here most of the time and you're gettting 3:2 on your money. Pretty profitable situation. If you want to avoid this altogether put in a pot size raise preflop ($80-$100) and if the guy outflops you with after putting a 1/3 of his stack in the middle preflop that's poker.

flawless_victory · #9 10-16-2005, 09:34 PM

i dont really understand why you had to post this hand and i support this thread being locked.

Allinlife · #10 10-16-2005, 09:35 PM

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I thought since we didn't know each other, my opponent didn't know if he had fold equity against me or not.

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you are over estimating