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11-26-2005, 06:09 PM
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How do you convince idiots their blind structure is retarded?
Lately, I have been going around and playing some other people's games around where I live. Now, these are your "I learned everything I know about poker from watching the WSOP" crowd. How do I tell them that starting with ~2500 (they like to have LOTS of chips, and play with stupid mid-denoms like 50 chips) and blinds starting at 25-50 and doubling every 20 minutes is a bad idea. Am I a dick for thinking that having to wager half of your starting stack every round less than 2 hours in is close to the dumbest thing ever? My thoughts are that I should probably just stop playing any of these games, as it just becomes one big crapshoot. If I do keep playing them, is there any way to actually beat them?
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#2
11-26-2005, 06:15 PM
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Re: How do you convince idiots their blind structure is retarded?
this is very close to how my friends and I play used to play -
Though DOUBLING is too much the game is beatable - you just have to adjust.
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#3
11-26-2005, 09:43 PM
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Re: How do you convince idiots their blind structure is retarded?
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this is very close to how my friends and I play used to play - Though DOUBLING is too much the game is beatable - you just have to adjust. [/ QUOTE ] I use the Foxwoods structure with 2000 chips to start. It works great. Scotty O
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#4
11-26-2005, 10:05 PM
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Re: How do you convince idiots their blind structure is retarded?
Yeah, that is fairly similar to what I go with. I am changing to T1200 (8 X 25, 5 X 100, 1 X 500) and blinds of 25-50, 50-100, 75-150, 100-200, 150-300, 200-400, 300-600, 400-800, 500-1K, 600-1.2k, 700-1.4k, 1k-2k and SB going up 1K each after, each level 20 min) The one I played in tonight that pissed me off so bad was 25-50, 50-100, 100-200, 200-400, 400-800, 800-1600, etc. I doubt that I will get too many of these fanbois to my game, as they don't like it when the game is actually requiring more skill to win than pure luck. Hopefully I will eventually be able to get a core group of players who know how poker is actually supposed to be played.
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#5
11-26-2005, 10:46 PM
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Re: How do you convince idiots their blind structure is retarded?
thats still not a great structure, t1200 is nothing with 25-50 blinds
give 2500 and start at 25-25 or 1500 at 5-10
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#6
11-27-2005, 11:00 PM
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Re: How do you convince idiots their blind structure is retarded?
Aren't the pertinent questions "what type of a game does one want?" and "about how long should it last?"
1st question includes: how many players? how should end game be played? Should the game favor aggression, tightness or luck? and perhaps a few more. How many players is important because you need your average stack to maintain the desired number of big blinds as people get eliminated (this does not have to be stagnant.) How should endgame be played is important if you have 2 tables or more (since a small step into a one table game is endgame). This is where it might be worth it to make the average number of big blinds per stack bigger (which favors aggresion) or the number of big blinds smaller (whcih favors tightness) or to make the game played the same. Also, there are three normal ways that the blinds can go up: time intervals, player elimination, and hands played. A mixture of these could be used too. Think about the desired results, then design the game structure around it. Much easier that way than just picking out some other person's structure and seeing if you happen to like it. As for how to convince idiots their blind structure is retarted: Tell him that You don't like the blind structure's results, explain to said idiot how the blind structure dictates these reslults and if said idiot says he likes his retarded blind structure because it is fun and favors idiots, he may not be as dumb as you think he is.
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#7
11-27-2005, 12:23 AM
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Re: How do you convince idiots their blind structure is retarded?
Yeah, your new blind structure is way worse that the original one. How do you think it will help? You think wagering half your stack after 2 hours is bad? What about wagerings your entire stack after...well, without getting any good cards, about 30 minutes into the match you're already all in. Your new structure you'd be lucky if the whole thing lasted 2 hours, depending on players it'd probably last an hour and a half.
JMB
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#8
11-27-2005, 05:05 PM
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Re: How do you convince idiots their blind structure is retarded?
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Yeah, that is fairly similar to what I go with. I am changing to T1200 (8 X 25, 5 X 100, 1 X 500) and blinds of 25-50, 50-100, 75-150, 100-200, 150-300, 200-400, 300-600, 400-800, 500-1K, 600-1.2k, 700-1.4k, 1k-2k and SB going up 1K each after, each level 20 min) [/ QUOTE ] worst. blind. structure. ever. it's good how, in the second round of blinds, you have 10% of your stack in the BB use AT LEAST 2500 (preferably 5000) starting chips and this is a good schedule
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#9
11-26-2005, 06:28 PM
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Re: How do you convince idiots their blind structure is retarded?
No, you can't win.
Home-game-rapidly-increasing-blind-poker-with-donks is RIGGED!
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#10
11-26-2005, 07:06 PM
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Re: How do you convince idiots their blind structure is retarded?
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No, you can't win. Home-game-rapidly-increasing-blind-poker-with-donks is RIGGED! [/ QUOTE ] I think the point to be made here is that you just gotta get the donks pegged, know when your ahead, focus more on tells, rather than playing ABC.
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