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Maja 5 3.88%
Elvis 10 7.75%
Rocky 4 3.10%
Stormy 5 3.88%
Kelsey 6 4.65%
Casey 1 0.78%
Nacho 14 10.85%
Herbie 9 6.98%
Rusty 12 9.30%
Sarge 4 3.10%
Flash 2 1.55%
Roxie 10 7.75%
Jasper 4 3.10%
Mickey 3 2.33%
Petey 3 2.33%
Red 7 5.43%
Jinx 3 2.33%
Clover 3 2.33%
Jiffy 5 3.88%
Tango 3 2.33%
I don't like dogs- cause i'm a buthole 6 4.65%
Hey- shut up down there, what was the question? 3 2.33%
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Old 10-20-2005, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: Deep 3/6NL: CAll all in preflop with AQs?

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Please give me an example of a hand that AQs beats but is an insignificant favorite over. Either you are ahead, even money or buried.

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That's my point we are getting all in with AQs, which when all in preflop is probably not that huge of a favorite against villians hand range. Probably a favorite yes, but not a big one.

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Then define "wrong". Do you mean the specific hand or your whole pattern is wrong?

What hands do you require to call in this situation? AA, KK?

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Did I use the word "wrong" in my post?

I'm just saying that the concept of passing up a small +EV edge to wait for a bigger +EV edge has relevance here. B/C it is a capped buy-in it is very important to have a big stack and have the fish covered, so we make a ton of money when we get in as a huge favorite.
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Old 10-20-2005, 11:29 AM
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Default Re: Deep 3/6NL: CAll all in preflop with AQs?

I believe this is by far the best strategy. At a single buy-in you could afford to take several shots. Deep stacked you need to have patience. I don't put my stack of 3-4 buy-ins at risk in this situation unless I believe I am the favorite unimproved, which I think is AA, KK, QQ. Not AK.
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Old 10-20-2005, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: Deep 3/6NL: CAll all in preflop with AQs?

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At a single buy-in you could afford to take several shots. Deep stacked you need to have patience.

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This is an excellent point.

What are your thoughts on folding JJ /AK/AQs here and taking the risk of letting UTG ($1500) wake up with a hand and stack villian before I can?
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Old 10-20-2005, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: Deep 3/6NL: CAll all in preflop with AQs?

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At a single buy-in you could afford to take several shots. Deep stacked you need to have patience.

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This is an excellent point.

What are your thoughts on folding JJ /AK/AQs here and taking the risk of letting UTG ($1500) wake up with a hand and stack villian before I can?

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huh? if UTG "wakes up" I assume you mean he has a very strong hand. I don't think his calling range is going to be much wider than TT+, AK, AQs, maybe AJs and AQo? It's not like you're gonna want to be in a 3 way pot with him, maniac and your AQs anyway. Plus if UTG is willing to call here with a hand like AJs that you do beat, it's possible that he loses, and then you end up with a ton of money in the fishes pocket and a massive tilter.
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Old 10-20-2005, 03:20 PM
HoldEmKillah HoldEmKillah is offline
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Default Re: Deep 3/6NL: CAll all in preflop with AQs?

I didn't mean a 3-way pot. I just meant me folding my AQ only to have UTG stack villian on the next hand. Good points made about villian winning and having a massive tilter.
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Old 10-20-2005, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: Deep 3/6NL: CAll all in preflop with AQs?

this is a call... especially if its on stars (where you can use the rebuy trick to quickly cover him agian)
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Old 10-20-2005, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: Deep 3/6NL: CAll all in preflop with AQs?

was on party.
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Old 10-20-2005, 04:19 PM
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Default Re: Deep 3/6NL: CAll all in preflop with AQs?

i think you gotta call here, its just not too likely that he has you beat.
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Old 10-20-2005, 05:30 PM
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Calling is the correct move I believe, but I have a feeling he has something like AJ and will spike a flush.
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Old 10-20-2005, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: Deep 3/6NL: CAll all in preflop with AQs?

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How are these hands remotely interesting?

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It's not at all interesting. It's a very simple math/logic problem.

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