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Old 07-14-2005, 12:16 AM
tminus tminus is offline
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Default need a sanity check with these hands

Bankroll is bleeding like all hell so Im posting these in an attempt to stay sane...i usually list the player types but ive come to believe it doesnt matter much at the tens

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#Game No : 2359661690
***** Hand History for Game 2359661690 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:13911446 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Wednesday, July 13, 22:14:45 EDT
Table Table 11588 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: EightEdge ( $1220 )
Seat 8: bankerluck ( $565 )
Seat 6: Tminus9 ( $1055 )
Seat 3: Sappydaddy ( $3350 )
Seat 10: josebolando ( $945 )
Seat 7: prich66 ( $675 )
Seat 9: hoserman23 ( $190 )
Trny:13911446 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Tminus9 [ Js Jc ]
Tminus9 raises [150].
prich66 folds.
bankerluck folds.
hoserman23 folds.
josebolando folds.
EightEdge is all-In [1195]
Sappydaddy folds.
Tminus9 is all-In [905]
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#Game No : 2360371545
***** Hand History for Game 2360371545 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:13914592 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Thursday, July 14, 00:02:26 EDT 2005
Table Table 11534 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 5: Tminus9 ( $1380 )
Seat 2: A1pigeon ( $2604 )
Seat 7: tmugs ( $875 )
Seat 8: Brick39 ( $3141 )
Trny:13914592 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Tminus9 [ Ts Js ]
tmugs folds.
Brick39 raises [600].
A1pigeon folds.
Tminus9 is all-In [1080]
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#Game No : 2360023624
***** Hand History for Game 2360023624 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:13913044 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Wednesday, July 13, 23:09:00 EDT 2005
Table Table 11532 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 6: Tminus9 ( $1058 )
Seat 5: bayballer1 ( $2080 )
Seat 8: imthedhu ( $1433 )
Seat 10: ItFromDerry ( $3429 )
Trny:13913044 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Tminus9 [ 7s 7d ]
Tminus9 is all-In [1058]
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Old 07-14-2005, 12:33 AM
wiggs73 wiggs73 is offline
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Default Re: need a sanity check with these hands

Hand 1 - I like the PF raise fine. I'd fold to the push though. You're a coinflip at best against too many hands and you have plenty of chips to get away from the hand after putting 150 in.

Hand 2 - Just fold. You have no FE here and he's getting the odds to call with pretty much any 2. There is also 1 stack that's in worse shape than you, which comes into play a bit here.

Hand 3 - Rather easy push.
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Old 07-14-2005, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: need a sanity check with these hands

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Hand 1 - I like the PF raise fine. I'd fold to the push though. You're a coinflip at best against too many hands and you have plenty of chips to get away from the hand after putting 150 in.

Hand 2 - Just fold. You have no FE here and he's getting the odds to call with pretty much any 2. There is also 1 stack that's in worse shape than you, which comes into play a bit here.

Hand 3 - Rather easy push.

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What he said.
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Old 07-14-2005, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: need a sanity check with these hands

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Hand 1 - I like the PF raise fine. I'd fold to the push though. You're a coinflip at best against too many hands

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with no read on the opponent, what would you expect from the typical $10 player ? i was thinking AK, AQ, AJ or any pair TT+.....?
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Old 07-14-2005, 12:06 PM
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Default Re: need a sanity check with these hands

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with no read on the opponent, what would you expect from the typical $10 player ? i was thinking AK, AQ, AJ or any pair TT+.....?

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From what I've seen, that's about right (with the occasional lower pair thrown in). JJ and AJ are unlikely, and you're only well ahead of TT in this range once you remove those two.
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Old 07-14-2005, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: need a sanity check with these hands

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with no read on the opponent, what would you expect from the typical $10 player ? i was thinking AK, AQ, AJ or any pair TT+.....?

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From what I've seen, that's about right (with the occasional lower pair thrown in). JJ and AJ are unlikely, and you're only well ahead of TT in this range once you remove those two.

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Remember, there's a big difference between pushing and calling an all-in. If you were going to call an all-in in Hand 1, then you probably should have pushed to begin with. Your stack was too big to really do that, so you took your shot at a raise, and now have to fold. You still have enough chips for this.

Hand #2, villain will call anyways. Your hand might have been good enough to open push, but not enough to push against a caller who will call with any 2 cards.

Hand #3. Standard.
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Old 07-14-2005, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: need a sanity check with these hands

RE: JJ

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If you were going to call an all-in in Hand 1, then you probably should have pushed to begin with. Your stack was too big to really do that, so you took your shot at a raise, and now have to fold.

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one reason I HATE jacks early...
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Old 07-14-2005, 12:10 PM
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Default Re: need a sanity check with these hands

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Hand 1 - I like the PF raise fine. I'd fold to the push though. You're a coinflip at best against too many hands

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with no read on the opponent, what would you expect from the typical $10 player ? i was thinking AK, AQ, AJ or any pair TT+.....?

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Let's look at the range you put him on.

You dominate TT and AJ.
You're dominated by QQ, KK, AA.
You're coinflipping with AK, AQ.
You're tied with JJ.

I just think you can find better spots to get your money in than this, especially being that it's still early and you have a very workable stack if you fold.
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Old 07-14-2005, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: need a sanity check with these hands

good point
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Old 07-14-2005, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: need a sanity check with these hands

Hand 2 - Does a stop and go hold any merit here?
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