Watch Waxie Get Stacked

Andrew Fletcher · #1 12-16-2005, 10:24 AM

My impression of villian is that he is TAG and a thinking player. Please note my great flop check (to control pot size) and then my call of his all-in on the turn. This hand was played so badly postfloop that it makes my head hurt.

In case you can't tell, I'm talking about my play, not his.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG+1 ($30.10)
Hero ($26.90)
MP2 ($9.15)
CO ($28.80)
Button ($15.95)
SB ($25.40)
BB ($59.95)
UTG ($9.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1, Hero raises to $4.5, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls $3.50.

Flop: ($9.35) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($9.35) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $6, UTG+1 raises to $25.6, Hero calls $16.40 (All-In).

Final Pot: $57.35

beavens · #2 12-16-2005, 10:26 AM

ok i dont like the flop check at all. bet this 2/3 and reevaluate line based on villain''s response.

Andrew Fletcher · #3 12-16-2005, 10:31 AM

I think that is a worthwhile line against some people, but I thought villian was cold-calling with AA in this spot. With a different flop, I think I'm making a 2/3 bet.

My read for AA was very strong, which is why I checked the flop. The plan was to bet half the pot on the turn and fold if he pushed. Of course, he pushed and I called anyway. IMO, the hand really comes apart for me on the turn. I had a plan and totally didn't follow it for some reason.

beavens · #4 12-16-2005, 10:32 AM

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I think that is a worthwhile line against some people, but I thought villian was cold-calling with AA in this spot. With a different flop, I think I'm making a 2/3 bet.

My read for AA was very strong, which is why I checked the flop. The plan was to bet half the pot on the turn and fold if he pushed. Of course, he pushed and I called anyway. IMO, the hand really comes apart for me on the turn. I had a plan and totally didn't follow it for some reason.

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what is your reasoning for putting villain on AA?

Andrew Fletcher · #5 12-16-2005, 10:37 AM

I had been sitting next to him for a while and had been impressed by his play. He had done some things in some tricky situations that seemed to make a lot of sense. I guess I thought his hand range was wider than AA, but not by much. From what I had seen, he didn't put money in when he was behind and got money in when he was ahead. I know I'm not being very atriculate here, but I could tell this was going to be a WA/WB situation when he called my re-raise UTG.

If you're looking for Poker Tracker stats, I don't have any.

beavens · #6 12-16-2005, 10:45 AM

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I had been sitting next to him for a while and had been impressed by his play. He had done some things in some tricky situations that seemed to make a lot of sense. I guess I thought his hand range was wider than AA, but not by much. From what I had seen, he didn't put money in when he was behind and got money in when he was ahead. I know I'm not being very atriculate here, but I could tell this was going to be a WA/WB situation when he called my re-raise UTG.

If you're looking for Poker Tracker stats, I don't have any.

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you'll see most player repop it pf with JJ-AA. i'm thinking he's holding onto a whiffed AK or pair <QQ.

he saw you check the flop and probably thinks that you're just trying to steal on the turn.

i still recommend betting this flop and seeing what the guy does - if he c-r's the flop then you can probably fold knowing he's got you beat.

PoBoy321 · #7 12-16-2005, 10:28 AM

Ummmm, how are you controlling pot size when you get stacked anyway?

Bet the flop to protect your hand. Even as played, fold to the turn check/raise.

Andrew Fletcher · #8 12-16-2005, 10:32 AM

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Ummmm, how are you controlling pot size when you get stacked anyway?

[/ QUOTE ]Right. I checked the flop, trying to control pot size and then called his all-in anyway. If I'm trying to control pot size, why the heck am I calling his all-in?

4_2_it · #9 12-16-2005, 11:06 AM

If I am already HU, then I will smooth call with AA. However, I would never check the flop. I'll come out firing hoping that KK or QQ wants to dance.

Andrew Fletcher · #10 12-16-2005, 11:26 AM

If he pots the flop, I'll call. If he pots it again on the turn, I fold unimproved.

Or, I'd like to think that is what I'd do in this spot. As this hand shows, sometimes I completely ignore my plan and just shove my money in with a overpair.