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Old 07-18-2005, 09:54 AM
woodguy woodguy is offline
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Default Party $500K hand

Hello All,

A friend played this hand and disagrees with what I had to say about it, so asked me to post it here.

2nd hour

BB= 200

Hero=2800 in LP
Villian= 4200 in BB

Folded to Hero with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], raises to 500 to go

Folded to BB, flat calls

Flop (1100) comes Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero lead 800 at the pot, Villain flat calls

Turn (2700) : 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero has 1500 left.
What should Hero do and why?

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Woodguy
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:07 AM
Chief911 Chief911 is offline
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1. I'd probably have pushed the flop.
2. I'd push the turn. A perfect card came, and with stacks this shallow, hard not go go here. If he gets called by a flush draw, so be it. Obviously there are plenty of hands that beat him here that will call. None that he beats are likely to call aside from the flush draw. But there is 2600 in the pot. Push.

Nick
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:21 AM
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Default Re: Party $500K hand

He needs to push now, and not give a free card to the draw.
Weak Q or smaller pair may pay off as it may just look like continuation play. Plus w/ 1500 behind, I'd rather get my chips in here, than wait. Also this hand is to strong to get away from w/chips invested and chips left.
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:25 AM
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Easy push.. Villain's range that you beat is huge here.. Either a weak queen to a heart-draw.. and the range that he has you beat is much smaller.. (two hearts, low pocket pair).

One of you two are an idiot.

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Old 07-18-2005, 10:31 AM
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One of you two are an idiot

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*sigh*

If you are going to answer my posts with garbage like this, please refrain from answering my posts in the future.

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Woodguy
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:35 AM
sekrah sekrah is offline
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I'm guessing that you are the idiot in this mess?

It's okay, we all make mistakes.. I do ridiculously dumb things all the time when I don't think through them. I do dumb things even when I DO think through them.

It's alright, not the end of the world or anything. Relax.
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:45 AM
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One of you two are an idiot.



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This statement is funny.

OP, yeah push.
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:45 AM
EverettKings EverettKings is offline
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Default Re: Party $500K hand

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1. I'd probably have pushed the flop.

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Isn't betting 2300 into an 1100 pot a *touch* of an overbet? What worse hand is calling you? What better hand folds?

I like the flop pot bet. I would push the turn. If he has you beat he's getting your money in there one way or another, and if he has a hand like QxJh I don't want him skating to a free river. If you check behind, what do you do on the river? If it's a heart I presume you bail, but if it's a K or J for example? It just gets harder to figure out where you're at. If you didn't want to push, what was your reasoning?

Kings
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:49 AM
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I'd push the flop because if you bet 1/3 your stack, and a heart drops on the turn, how sick are you?

Its not about getting called by better hands, its about picking up the pot or making them take improper odds to call.

Nick
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Old 07-18-2005, 11:18 AM
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