Suited connectors after 2-3 limpers

[TwoNiner]

I usually like to raise in this position for added deception and free card purposes but I've seen some people say they like to limp and take a cheap flop. Any strong opinions one way or another?

[obsidian]

I don't think your equity is large enough here to justify a raise, even if you have position. I guess it improves your odds at chasing draws and might buy a free card but I still don't do it. Might be something to try out.

[MAxx]

i dont see a lot of value in raising for equity or freebie or the combination of the two.

[TwoNiner]

Yeah, I've got a low pfr% (12%) so I hold some fantasy of gaining respect on ace high flops and taking it down 3 handed and adding variety to my play. I might keep doing it, and once I get enough hands together I'll you how much it's costing me so we will have an answer. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[sammy_g]

I call here, but a better player like Nate tha' Great would probably say raise.

[TwoNiner]

Yeah, that one raiser on the poll is me. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Working through poker stove assigning reasonable limping standards and bb calling standards I'm getting from 20% equity 5 way to as bad as 19-20% equity 4 way if I assign say j-10 suited to somebody. I'll tinker around some more with it, but at a passive table I think I might be able to gain the equity back, I dunno.

[ghostface]

Why struggle to make money raising these hands unless you are 100% confident in you postflop skills? It seems odd to raise when you KNOW that you dont have a significant pot equity edge. It's not like you are gonna get any kind of image attached to you if a few fish watch you show down 98s. They will probably forget that you raised by the time the river falls.

[MyssGuy]

I'd call, but with J10s, I'd raise it up...thoughts?

[sammy_g]

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Why struggle to make money raising these hands unless you are 100% confident in you postflop skills?

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In fairness, this hand is pretty easy to play postflop.

From a pot equity perspective, the raise is probably slightly -EV. The idea is that when you flop a straight you'll have a bunch of people drawing dead, but chasing to the river since the pot is bloated.

[MAxx]

If you have a low pfr, such as 12%, I think you are missing some more profitable preflop raises that you should add before considering makeing a raise like this.