|
|
|
|
#1
10-10-2005, 11:27 PM
|
|||
|
|||
Brief thought on big hands on draw-heavy boards
Playing 25-50 9-handed. I call raiser with JJ. Flop QJ3 two hearts. PFR pots it. I raise $1100 with $1400 left behind. Don't sweat the small raise - opponent is a supposedly world-class pro and knows he has to go all in or fold there. He goes all in. My hand holds up against his Th9h monster draw.
General point: On a draw-heavy board you should raise big. Everyone thinks you have to raise to make the draws pay/commit. I raise because so many cards kill my action. Both are right. I much prefer live play, usually have position, and sometimes know when my opponents hit, and so am biased towards the latter. 
|
|
#2
10-10-2005, 11:31 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Brief thought on big hands on draw-heavy boards
[ QUOTE ]
On a draw-heavy board you should raise big. [/ QUOTE ]holy [censored], no way!
|
|
#3
10-10-2005, 11:36 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Brief thought on big hands on draw-heavy boards
Go easy Cap'n. Spelling that out - simple as it is - is going to save a lot of 2+2ers who will lurk this thread a lot of money.
|
|
#4
10-10-2005, 11:48 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Brief thought on big hands on draw-heavy boards
[ QUOTE ]
Playing 25-50 9-handed. I call raiser with JJ. Flop QJ3 two hearts. PFR pots it. I raise $1100 with $1400 left behind. Don't sweat the small raise - opponent is a supposedly world-class pro and knows he has to go all in or fold there. He goes all in. My hand holds up against his Th9h monster draw. General point: On a draw-heavy board you should raise big. Everyone thinks you have to raise to make the draws pay/commit. I raise because so many cards kill my action. Both are right. I much prefer live play, usually have position, and sometimes know when my opponents hit, and so am biased towards the latter. [/ QUOTE ] your example is totally different then the hand discussed in the diablo thread.
|
|
#5
10-11-2005, 11:11 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Brief thought on big hands on draw-heavy boards
[ QUOTE ]
your example is totally different then the hand discussed in the diablo thread. [/ QUOTE ] no relation intended between the threads.
|
|
#6
10-10-2005, 11:50 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Brief thought on big hands on draw-heavy boards
nice play sir.
but let me present the counter arguement. i flop a set on a draw heavy board, get bet into and just call...then on the turn when it bricks off get bet into again and get a guy to call my huge raise on the turn because as he said as he's calling my all-in (with one to come) well i know you don't have a set or you would have raised the flop. all i'm saying is that it can never be correct to play specific hands the same way all the time. at least if you plan on playing against observant opponents with deep stacks.
|
|
#7
10-11-2005, 11:14 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Brief thought on big hands on draw-heavy boards
indeed. if opponent is a routine stacker-offer with shite, then there is a good argument to some-of-the-time flat call and hope one of the 24 or 27 cards that might kill your action don't come off. we all do it, but it's like riding a moped/se with a fat chick/etc.
|
|
#10
10-11-2005, 12:02 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Brief thought on big hands on draw-heavy boards
I don't know, from my experience in live games with big stacks the first raise doesn't mean much, really just two cards the person would like to play. A reraise is a little better, I have a hand better than average, and a 3bet is I have a very good hand. So I feel like you have to raise with 10k+ stacks to sort of help get a bearing on what your opponent has...no?
|
 |
|
|
Hybrid Mode
