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Old 12-15-2005, 01:55 PM
Isura Isura is offline
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Default A rare drawing hand for me

I need a line for this hand. Call or reraise the flop? How do you play if an A or K comes on the turn? A diamond? Villain had about 40% VP, and I typcially passive. However, I had been opening a lot of pots (good run of hands), so that might factor into this hand.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($25)</font>
<font color="#C00000">CO ($24.25)</font>
Button ($33.45)
SB ($3.75)
BB ($29.35)
UTG ($25.87)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($2.35) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $5</font>
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: A rare drawing hand for me

call, reevaluate turn.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: A rare drawing hand for me

I'll call becasue you're not deep enought to raise &amp; not push.

I'd consider raising if effective stacks were quite deep becasue a diamond is killing your action.

Lead if improved regardless.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:05 PM
Mr. Sakuraba Mr. Sakuraba is offline
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Default Re: A rare drawing hand for me

I agree, call and see what the turn brings. If its a blank, and villian is still firing, let it go.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: A rare drawing hand for me

Am I the only one who advocated telling him to go F himself with his weak check-raise and putting him all-in? How many cards do you want to see here?
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: A rare drawing hand for me

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Am I the only one who advocated telling him to go F himself with his weak check-raise and putting him all-in? How many cards do you want to see here?

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[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] That's exactly what I did.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: A rare drawing hand for me

I don't think you're drawing to a live ace here (or at least you should consider that). If a king hits I'm happy. I would like to know is PFA though. $3 bucks to call a $9 pot you're getting about the right odds to call.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:22 PM
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Am I the only one who advocated telling him to go F himself with his weak check-raise and putting him all-in? How many cards do you want to see here?

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Sweet, Freerollin and I agree on something. I don't see how you have much of a choice here. You have a drawing hand that is a stastical favorite over most of your opponents likely holdings, plus you get some FE with a reraise. BUT, you must see both of the last to cards to be the favorite. I would only just call if there was some reason to believe you could see a cheap river card, and I haven't heard one yet. Seems like you have the first part of TAG play (the T), now just buck up and get on board with the second part (the AG).
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:23 PM
nietzreznor nietzreznor is offline
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Default Re: A rare drawing hand for me

Pushing isn't bad here, but if he's passive and his raise is probably a big hand, then I call.
If I'm calling, I probably lead if I hit, and if I blank I check and evaluate or perhaps try and block the turn.

Of course, a lot of times in this situation I don't even think I just stick it in there.
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Old 12-15-2005, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: A rare drawing hand for me

two lines:
a. push
b. call; all in on any turn. b is a TWP line and his reasons are:

sets are calling any flop bet but may pay you off even if you hit on the turn

you don't want to fold out a smaller flush draw

on the turn you have good equity against any marginal hand and so a push of a turn even if it is a blank for you will usually win you the hand.

if on the turn you read the guy as really strong, you can fold if he does not give you odds to call
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