Crying call?

pokerjunky · #1 12-09-2005, 05:44 PM

Villain is 26/9/2.5

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, MP3 3-bets, 4 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero raises, MP3 calls.

River: (8.70 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 raises, Hero....?

Final Pot: 12.70 BB

#2 12-09-2005, 05:48 PM

Is folding even crossing your mind here? I would hope not. I think I'd call this with 3-betting a close second. You don't want to get 3 bet from a full house, but you have the best hand that is not a full house, in the nut flush. Put your money in the pot here though.

jason_t · #3 12-09-2005, 05:49 PM

I happily call. Folding shouldn't cross your mind. There are villains that I would 3-bet here.

pokerjunky · #4 12-09-2005, 05:51 PM

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Is folding even crossing your mind here? I would hope not. I think I'd call this with 3-betting a close second. You don't want to get 3 bet from a full house, but you have the best hand that is not a full house, in the nut flush. Put your money in the pot here though.

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I showed a lot of strenth by check raising the third spade on the turn on this coordinated board. What is villain raising here that doesn't beat me?

#5 12-09-2005, 05:54 PM

I would have probably bet the flop, but as far as the river...

I say 3 bet, but you should at least call. Folding is horrible.

stillbr · #6 12-09-2005, 05:57 PM

Folding here would be horrible. A 3-bet here wouldnt be bad either depending on how aggressive the villian is. Is he 3-betting preflop with AJ? It doesnt seem like he would given his stats. That leaves AA, TT, and QxQs. How aggressive has he been on the turn? How aggressive has he been on the river? Does he raise non-nut hands on the river? I wouldnt be a shock to see QxQs here.

stillbr · #7 12-09-2005, 05:59 PM

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Is folding even crossing your mind here? I would hope not. I think I'd call this with 3-betting a close second. You don't want to get 3 bet from a full house, but you have the best hand that is not a full house, in the nut flush. Put your money in the pot here though.

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I showed a lot of strenth by check raising the third spade on the turn on this coordinated board. What is villain raising here that doesn't beat me?

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QxQs.

jason_t · #8 12-09-2005, 06:00 PM

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I would have probably bet the flop, but as far as the river...

I say 3 bet, but you should at least call. Folding is horrible.

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Definitely should have played the flop faster.

gopnik · #9 12-09-2005, 06:02 PM

yes, you have to call here. He might have a Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (if he 3-bet preflop with QQ).

jason_t · #10 12-09-2005, 06:03 PM

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Is folding even crossing your mind here? I would hope not. I think I'd call this with 3-betting a close second. You don't want to get 3 bet from a full house, but you have the best hand that is not a full house, in the nut flush. Put your money in the pot here though.

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I showed a lot of strenth by check raising the third spade on the turn on this coordinated board. What is villain raising here that doesn't beat me?

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QQ, Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or AQ, Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].