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10-19-2005, 05:28 AM
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Re: There is a right and a wrong way to do it....
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One thing that the Grand DOES do correctly is make 'open-seating' announcements through the casino. "We have open-seating for 3/6 hold-em. C'mon up to the Poker room on the 2nd floor and join us." Stuff like that. [/ QUOTE ] This is good for poker and is good for poker players. It may or may not be good for the casino. When I was in Vegas we coudl not page in the casino. When seats were open the hotel operator could page them to the house phone and put them through to the poker room. Everytime an announcement about poker is made there is a chance that someone will leave the pit to go play poker; this is not something the casino likes. 
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#12
10-19-2005, 11:10 AM
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I am probably in the minority here, but I feel the "nice" rooms are intimidating. I like for the poker room to feel very accessible, it shoudl not look like the sort of places you have to be quiet in. [/ QUOTE ] I tend to agree with this. Personally, I like the pretty rooms, really. I love Wynn's room and the clubby atmosphere at Monte Carlo. The Bellagio and Mirage rooms are great too. But I have to say, the level of play and the goodness of the games are better at the more open rooms. Bally's, for example, sits right next to a bar with Video Poker and nestles up next to the Black Jack tables. On more than one occasion I've seen people wander in and want to play just because the "room" is generally inviting and the brush is easy to find and ask about the games. On numerous occasions I've seen the floor people and dealers talking to lookers-on about betting into games. So, for getting people interested in playing, I think the open "rooms" are the way to go. Regards, T
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#13
10-19-2005, 05:53 PM
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On numerous occasions I've seen the floor people and dealers talking to lookers-on about betting into games. So, for getting people interested in playing, I think the open "rooms" are the way to go. [/ QUOTE ] Oh heck, last time I was at Bally's playing 2/4, the table would get a little short handed and I'd just turn around to see who was watching. I'd say "c'mon in and sit down, there's room and no one on the list" and sometimes they would. The dealer didn't seem to mind and I didn't hear any complaints from any other players. Bally's was my favorite room for this on my last trip. Bellagio, i loved the aesthetics, but hated the gaming atmosphere. It just seemed like everyone was so damned serious about playing poker they didn't want to have fun or show me a good time.
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#14
10-19-2005, 05:58 PM
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[ QUOTE ] paris and wynn? [/ QUOTE ] Yes. But there are many more examples out there. [/ QUOTE ] I could have sworn that the bottom picture was from the Monte Carlo.
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#15
10-19-2005, 06:02 PM
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Re: There is a right and a wrong way to do it....
You can tell that the Paris Hotel/Casino was built prior to the poker boom. That "card room" is a couple of tables thrown in near the slots. Although the posts about the open rooms getting more fish are probably right.
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10-19-2005, 10:24 PM
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Re: There is a right and a wrong way to do it....
I think a good room is not defined by it's decor (though comfy chairs are important) but by the staff and players.
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#18
10-20-2005, 12:37 AM
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I am probably in the minority here, but I feel the "nice" rooms are intimidating [/ QUOTE ] I gotta agree with Randy here. In my limited experience its the nits/rocks who care, and complain quite voraciously, about the atmosphere. The fish just want to sit down and play, and frequently like having a guy in the corner playing piano.
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#19
10-20-2005, 09:40 AM
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Before I learned how to play poker (and I was familiar with casinos because I counted-cards at BJ) I was intimidated to play poker. This was 3 years ago. I would NEVER have known that you are actually allowed to stand there at the rail and watch. [/ QUOTE ] I was also highly intimidated at first. I would have been one of those people who had to be chased down by the floorman. I think that a casino interested in the long-term health of its poker room could hang a couple discreet signs outside the room, simply stating "It's Okay To Watch!" (However, I can see many casino execs frowning on such friendly gestures -- because a customer watching the poker room is a customer who isn't gambling.) I tend to prefer the closed rooms, but that's only because the closed rooms I've experienced were much less smoky. Give me a smoke-free environment, and I'd probably choose the open layout (preferably right next to the sports book).
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#20
10-20-2005, 11:07 AM
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I am probably in the minority here, but I feel the "nice" rooms are intimidating. I like for the poker room to feel very accessible, it shoudl not look like the sort of places you have to be quiet in. [/ QUOTE ] Great point. A classic example of an intimidating and unaccessible room from the old days was the Las Vegas Hilton circa 1987 or so. It seemed all the policies catered to local nits. It was way in back near the sports book and the entrance was narrow in such a way that you couldn't even see the tables in back. The lighting was designed to make it easy to see cards put the fact was it made the players look like they crawled out of a crypt. Awful place, I'm not surprised it eventually closed. ~ Rick
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