$1/2 99 hand

Womble · #1 09-22-2005, 11:45 AM

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, Button calls, BB folds.

Turn: (5.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, CO calls, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, CO folds, Button caps, Hero calls.

River: (14.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16.75 BB

Turn raiser marked as ABC (smae player from other thread)

I didn't put anyone on a J. I thought the turn raise would be an 8 but it could also be TT (QQ,KK,AA should have raised preflop - TT should too but there wasnt much PFR) Once capped Im busted. An 8 surely wouldn't do that so must be higher PP or a J? But can I fold

deepsquat · #2 09-22-2005, 06:20 PM

i play the same, u will find small PP's and any 8 will raise the turn. Not thrilled about being capped on the turn but u cant fold the river.

cokehead · #3 09-22-2005, 07:20 PM

I play the hand the same against a unknown. with a better read i might just call down after the turn raise - ie if he is too tight to have a 8 in his hand coldcalling preflop, or pretty passive. I think an ABC player has TT+ or the case J here quite often.

and definitely don't fold the river, though I doubt ur good.

imported_CaseClosed326 · #4 09-22-2005, 08:52 PM

Personaly I just call the turn raise, and maybe bet/call the river. Or c/c.

I think once he caps you are toast, but probably can not fold.

#5 09-22-2005, 09:54 PM

Common, it's 1/2. I've seen plenty of players in 1/2 who would raise and cap in that position with much less than a pair of 8s. I definitely wouldn't fold no matter the player. In a few cases I'd consider raising the river.

most 1/2 6 max players are rediculous.

livinitup0 · #6 09-22-2005, 10:07 PM

I'd play mainly the same, but I think id slow down during the turn, I would think you would want to keep CO around, he seems to be drawing dead. I could easily see a slowplayed J or any other PP. But to answer your question, no... I woudlnt fold this....ever

livinitup0 · #7 09-22-2005, 10:15 PM

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Common, it's 1/2. I've seen plenty of players in 1/2 who would raise and cap in that position with much less than a pair of 8s. I definitely wouldn't fold no matter the player. In a few cases I'd consider raising the river.

most 1/2 6 max players are rediculous.

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I think this type of play is just too much. Many players here complain about having frequent wild swings. Maybe this kind of play is the reason... I dont know it just seems too aggressive to me. I think the same overall BB/100 can be obtained with a little less aggression, without the wild swings. Its still standard poker, sans 4 chairs.

#8 09-22-2005, 10:35 PM

My basic point here is that it seems like you guys are playing the cards too much in a game that's notorious for the poor play of its players. Every board is different, though. The VAST majority of the time I'd check call on the river, too. I've seen a lot of players that would cap with an 8 or a bluff there. Please don't get the impression that I'd generally keep raising here, though. I'm just saying I'd consider it.

Oh, and my winrate is steady, FWIW. I definitely agree that wild swings described on this site seem to be influenced by overly aggressive play. A lot of people take overcards and middle pair too far.