Cap preflop and 3bet turn? ($1/2)

Womble · #1 09-12-2005, 12:05 PM

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $1.
UTG (poster) checks, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero raises, UTG folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (13 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, Button folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

River: (16.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, SB folds, Hero 3-bets, CO calls.

Final Pot: 22.50 BB

No reads but the LRR preflop is quite scary so I didnt cap. On the turn I no see that a lone Ax hand would raise me and 2 pair which is likely would also raise so I guess I 3bet. If I am up against AA, [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] but I still have outs against a straight if I am behind.

Perfect river card, what is the default play? I now think a c/r would be better to try and trap the other player.

spydog · #2 09-12-2005, 12:12 PM

The LRR preflop shouldn't bother you. If the SB has AA then he's raising preflop since there are 3 limpers already and he can't count on a raise from you in the BB. Usually this activity is suited connectors trying to gamble and build a big pot. This is an easy preflop cap.

I 3-bet this turn. 2-pair will be a frequent holding for the CO and you have the SB providing good overlay if you are behind KQ.

I might CR this river if I had called the turn raise, thus trapping SB for a bet. Leading isn't the worst play as the river card might scare a passive player into checking behind.

GetThere1Time · #3 09-12-2005, 12:19 PM

LRRs are so goofy I always cap this PF. I doubt anyone would try to LRR aces from the SB. He's probably just trying to build a pot. I would also 3-bet the turn and call down a cap.

poboys · #4 09-12-2005, 12:34 PM

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $1.
UTG (poster) checks, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero raises, UTG folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls.

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Cap this pre-flop.

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Turn: (10.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, Button folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

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3-bet here. If he's got AAs, he's got em. But there's a much better chance that he doesn't have em.

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River: (16.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, SB folds, Hero 3-bets, CO calls.

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Perfect.

PokerBob · #5 09-12-2005, 01:43 PM

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Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $1.
UTG (poster) checks, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero raises, UTG folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (13 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, Button folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

River: (16.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, SB folds, Hero 3-bets, CO calls.

Final Pot: 22.50 BB

No reads but the LRR preflop is quite scary so I didnt cap. On the turn I no see that a lone Ax hand would raise me and 2 pair which is likely would also raise so I guess I 3bet. If I am up against AA, [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] but I still have outs against a straight if I am behind.

Perfect river card, what is the default play? I now think a c/r would be better to try and trap the other player.

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with all those other morons in there, i think you can cap preflop, but calling is fine too. 3-bet the turn without a second thought.

i think the river is fine as SB may not overcall CO's bet and this way you can bet/3-bet like you did.

#6 09-12-2005, 01:58 PM

JJ is huge preflop shorthanded. Why wouldnt you cap it??

#7 09-12-2005, 02:02 PM

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $1.
UTG (poster) checks, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero raises, UTG folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls.

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Cap this pre-flop.

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Turn: (10.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, Button folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

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3-bet here. If he's got AAs, he's got em. But there's a much better chance that he doesn't have em.

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River: (16.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, SB folds, Hero 3-bets, CO calls.

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Perfect.

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I agree with this, further on the turn I think it is likely that the villan picked up 2 pair, or a pair and a flush draw. I would 3-bet hoping that he caps.

Keep in mind that the CO did not raise preflop, so I am not thinking AA.

Margon

C-Dog · #8 09-12-2005, 05:17 PM

Party Poker is so rigged, I posted damn near the exact same hand last week. The LRRing SB and everything. I capped PF, then capped the flop. Then I raised te turn and called the SBs 3 bet. Then on the river I raised him again, and then called his 3 bet. He showed A6o for a boat (mine had 66 instead of 55 on the board).

C-Dog

EvanJC · #9 09-12-2005, 05:28 PM

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Party Poker is so rigged

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