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Old 09-03-2005, 01:43 PM
Page Jacobson Page Jacobson is offline
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Default $11Party-I\'m the BB and its checked to me.

Villian is loose. Should I try and buy this pot on the flop?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) converter

SB (t1560)
Hero (t1290)
UTG (t2875)
MP1 (t560)
MP2 (t250)
CO (t605)
Button (t860)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t200) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t200) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t100</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t300

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. SB wins t300. </font>
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Old 09-03-2005, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: $11Party-I\'m the BB and its checked to me.

Yes.
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Old 09-03-2005, 01:49 PM
Oluwafemi Oluwafemi is offline
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Default Re: $11Party-I\'m the BB and its checked to me.

should you try to buy this pot on the flop?

No.
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Old 09-03-2005, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: $11Party-I\'m the BB and its checked to me.

no. he's loose right?
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Old 09-03-2005, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: $11Party-I\'m the BB and its checked to me.

What's the point of having position if you're not going to use it. Villain checked the flop; loose villains bet any pair here. I have no showdown value here; if I'm going to try to win this pot at all I want to do it on the flop. And I want to win this pot.
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Old 09-03-2005, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: $11Party-I\'m the BB and its checked to me.

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Yes.

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and what [pray tell] is Hero's line then? bet t100 at the flop against a loose opponent w/ no pair, no draw, no nothing? what's Hero's move on the turn if he/she is called?
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Old 09-03-2005, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: $11Party-I\'m the BB and its checked to me.

Fold. What's your point.
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Old 09-03-2005, 01:55 PM
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so let me get this right. anytime you have position on some1 and it is checked to you, you bet?
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Old 09-03-2005, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: $11Party-I\'m the BB and its checked to me.

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What's the point of having position if you're not going to use it. Villain checked the flop; loose villains bet any pair here. I have no showdown value here; if I'm going to try to win this pot at all I want to do it on the flop. And I want to win this pot.

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maybe this logic works in a $109 against a typical villian, but against a loose villian in a $11, you're getting called a good percentage of the time. this may work in an $11 against a very weak-tight villian with a strong flop bet.
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Old 09-03-2005, 01:56 PM
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Almost always.
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