10+1 party. Does anyone else call here?

Page Jacobson · #1 06-22-2005, 12:44 PM

I was thinking(hoping) that they both had ace-big kicker and I could win a big pot and contend for 1st.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) converter

BB (t2340)
UTG (t570)
Hero (t1640)
CO (t1633)
Button (t1317)
SB (t500)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises to t570 (All-In), Hero calls t570, CO raises to t1633 (All-In), 3 folds, Hero calls t1063.

Flop: (t3986) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t3986) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t3986) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: t3986

Results in white below: 
UTG has Ac 9d (two pair, nines and sixes).
Hero has Jc Js (two pair, jacks and sixes).
CO has Qc Qh (two pair, queens and sixes).
Outcome: CO wins t3986.

KingDan · #2 06-22-2005, 12:47 PM

Reraise UTG, don't just call. You aren't getting away from this once you call, anyway.

Hood · #3 06-22-2005, 12:56 PM

I wouldn't have called the 570 initally, I would have pushed.

Karak567 · #4 06-22-2005, 01:28 PM

General rule of thumb: If you are prepared to call an all-in, then just go all-in. Make your opponent make the decision.

Push overtop with JJ, don't just cold call it.

Insty · #5 06-22-2005, 02:43 PM

1) After calling intially I'm folding to the allin from the CO my Jacks are not going to be looking great against 2 all ins.
2) I'm not sure what I would do initially. It depends a lot on how the table is playing. I can see myself doing any of fold/call/push.

Thinking about it some more, I'm most happy with folding especially with 4 people still to act and the bigstack in the BB. Jacks are not that good.
I just wish you had not posted the results of the hand, I might be subconciously biased.

45suited · #6 06-22-2005, 02:46 PM

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1) After calling intially I'm folding to the allin from the CO my Jacks are not going to be looking great against 2 all ins.

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Calling and folding would be absolutely horrible. Push pre-flop.

Laomedon · #7 06-22-2005, 02:46 PM

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Thinking about it some more, I'm most happy with folding especially with 4 people still to act and the bigstack in the BB. Jacks are not that good.
I just wish you had not posted the results of the hand, I might be subconciously biased.

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Umm, sorry, but I push in this spot everytime with JJ in a 10+1. You can't play scared and hope to be successful. OP has the fourth best starting hand, you can't assume someone left to act will have QQ, KK, or AA.

PapiChulo503 · #8 06-22-2005, 03:01 PM

At this stage of the game im pushing with JJ after that UTG all in. You would like to make this a heads up pot, you have a decent chip stack and would rather show strength to discourage people with overcards from calling.

After the CO re-raised all in what range of hands do you put him on? I would have folded after the re-raise. You still have 10x the BB after the laydown.

Jay36489 · #9 06-22-2005, 07:07 PM

With no reads I'm pushing here, then yelling OH [censored] as soon as CO calls, but I would never be this far into a tournament with no reads...

lastchance · #10 06-22-2005, 07:10 PM

1k for 1500 of cash in a 3 way + 2k HU with Jacks... I call both times....

But I think pushing initially is by far best.