What you gon do now (or earlier)?

illunious · #1 03-28-2005, 09:12 PM

UTG+1: 26 VPIP, 18 PFR, 1/1/2 AF (38 hands)
Button: 41 VPIP, 8 PFR, 2/3/4 AF (58 hands)
BB: 50 VPIP, 0 PFR, 0/.3/1 AF (12 hands)

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.5.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, 3 folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (9 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Button folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets

KaiShin · #2 03-28-2005, 09:15 PM

Call.

Anyone lead the river here?

btspider · #3 03-28-2005, 09:19 PM

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Call.

Anyone lead the river here?

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are you folding to a raise?

anyone fold PF here? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

18 PFR over 38 hands isn't gonzo just yet.. did you see any of these hands shown down?

illunious · #4 03-28-2005, 09:25 PM

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did you see any of these hands shown down?

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I wasn't paying attention to the mucked cards at the time, nothing abnormal seemed to be happening.

Do you think check-calling the flop and turn is too fancy?

KaiShin · #5 03-28-2005, 09:31 PM

I wouldn't fold KJs, UTG+1's numbers might not be gonzo but they are pointing to looser than normal.

Good point about calling the raise on the river. I think the check/call line is best here. Look him up and take a note for next time.

ArturiusX · #6 03-28-2005, 10:09 PM

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anyone fold PF here? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I do, only because we're out of position for the rest of the hand.

If the cold caller was in CO and I was on the button, I'd consider a call.

bozlax · #7 03-28-2005, 10:15 PM

Anybody else going to C/R the turn? It strengthens some draws, you're to the expensive streets, now, yada-yada. And, since you've got top pair with a kicker above the 2nd board card, shouldn't you find a raise in here, somewhere?

Of course, I'm not really sure what I'd do if 3-bet. Probably call down. If called on the turn, I'd suit up for war when the relative blank falls on the river.

Duerig · #8 03-28-2005, 10:37 PM

I think I would check raise this flop and lead the turn (unless I was 3bet -- then I would probably check-call down). Is that a terrible mistake?

ArturiusX · #9 03-28-2005, 10:37 PM

Check-raising and getting 3-bet would be disasterous. Check-raising won't get a better hand to fold, won't earn us a free card vs a better hand, and will cost us more chips.

We are far behind a lot of preflop raise hands, and only in front of QQ/JJ.

wabe · #10 03-28-2005, 10:45 PM

If you check-raise the turn and fold to a re-raise, how is that any different than calling a bet on the turn and calling a bet on the river? Buddygirl could be playing AQ for all we know. I guess the only problem here is if he calls the raise. Now you need to bet out on the river, and you might face a raise at this point.

Betting the river would be interesting, but I don't think I could do it. I likely just check/call the river same as you, absent any reads.