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Old 12-18-2005, 09:08 AM
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Default set vs unknown raiser nl100

he is new to the table, pt stats 35/13/1.5, no reads

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Hero ($101.35)
Button ($105.40)
SB ($230.92)
BB ($25)
UTG ($102.45)
MP ($137.49)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $3, UTG calls $3, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($16.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $6</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, Button calls $14.

Turn: ($56.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, Button calls $30.

River: ($116.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ?????
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Old 12-18-2005, 09:19 AM
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Default Re: set vs unknown raiser nl100

Push. I'm always willing to get my stack in here against an unknown.
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Old 12-18-2005, 09:51 AM
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Default Re: set vs unknown raiser nl100

I think you should bet 50 on the turn. Then you can bet 50 on the river again, which looks good and still gets his stack. The way you played it, I would probably push, since you have to check-call every bet anyway and chance that an opponent bluffs here is very small.
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Old 12-18-2005, 10:20 AM
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Default Re: set vs unknown raiser nl100

Easy push, if he's got an overset then he misplayed this hand.

I will typically bet the flop. With 4 seeing, it has to have hit somebody and you can't risk a free card with 2 Broadway connectors out there.
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Old 12-18-2005, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: set vs unknown raiser nl100

Get more money in faster. As played push
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Old 12-18-2005, 02:28 PM
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He's just been calling your bets. Probalby got AK, or KQ. I think it unlikely he'll call an all in bet from you. I'd bet $40, and call if he puts you all in.
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Old 12-18-2005, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: set vs unknown raiser nl100

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He's just been calling your bets. Probalby got AK, or KQ. I think it unlikely he'll call an all in bet from you. I'd bet $40, and call if he puts you all in.

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Hero only has like ~47 or whatever behind in a 100+ pot
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Old 12-18-2005, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: set vs unknown raiser nl100

I like to bet the flop here. I think checkraising it allows the guy to get away from AK and such here to easily. But other than that I think push the river.
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Old 12-18-2005, 05:43 PM
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he had KK and i lost all my stack [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

i wanted to see if anyone would have been more conservative on this. i didn't like it when i saw both K and Q and even less when he called my turn bet( he took some time to make me think "he was pondering a call"), i felt something could be wrong but i said to myself [censored] it, if he has it he has it, i'm not folding a set when he could easily have KQ, AA or AK. after that i saw he was from norway and playing 2 tables, i think i would have been more careful had i known that. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 12-18-2005, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: set vs unknown raiser nl100

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Easy push, if he's got an overset then he misplayed this hand.

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If he's got an overset, then he's getting all of OP's stack if OP continues betting. Top and second set have pretty much broken the deck here, and that's why I see him betting $6. Maybe that's a mistake, but either everyone's gonna fold, or some stupid draw is gonna stick around, and that stupid draw is just dumping money. JT is the only thing an overset fears here, and since you can't buy a free card OOP I don't think Villain thinks Hero has JT.

After the flop, Hero has $76, Villain has $80, into a $56 pot. If villain has an overset, I think he can expect stacks to go in the middle by the end, so why not slowplay?

I'm not sure what an overset fears. If Villain has QQ, KK is a threat but it's unlikely that Hero has it (due to preflop action). If hero has a lone king, then it would take runner-runner for hero to win. If Villain has KK, then the only thing he fears is probably the case 6, which is damn thin.
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